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Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:00 pm
by jilpangs
Hi,
Given my complete absence details below since i came in to UK.
I'm planning to apply for British Citizenship on 15-Feb-2016 through NCS.
Considering Last 5 years (16-Feb-2011 to 15-Feb-2016) , i been away for 186 days. Is this a problem?
do we have 180 days limit for British Citizenship?
From To No of days comment
13-Sep-09 04-Oct-09 22 days Annual Vacation
10-Dec-10 13-Jan-11 35 days Annual Vacation
02-Dec-11 29-Feb-12 90 days Medical Treatment
18-Oct-13 10-Nov-13 25 days Annual Vacation
ILR Granted on 29-Feb-2014
23-Jun-14 28-Jul-14 36 days Annual Vacation
15-Dec-15 17-Jan-16 35 days Annual Vacation
JIL
Re: Absence Since Arrived in UK - Any Issues?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:07 pm
by CR001
jilpangs wrote:Hi,
Given my complete absence details below since i came in to UK.
I'm planning to apply for British Citizenship on 15-Feb-2016 through NCS.
Considering Last 5 years (16-Feb-2011 to 15-Feb-2016) , i been away for 186 days. Is this a problem?
do we have 180 days limit for British Citizenship? No
From To No of days comment
13-Sep-09 04-Oct-09 22 days Annual Vacation
10-Dec-10 13-Jan-11 35 days Annual Vacation
02-Dec-11 29-Feb-12 90 days Medical Treatment This will be your problem as you were not 'physically present in the UK' on the 15th February 2011, which is the start of your qualifying period for citizenship. If you apply as planned, your application will be refused.
18-Oct-13 10-Nov-13 25 days Annual Vacation
ILR Granted on 29-Feb-2014
23-Jun-14 28-Jul-14 36 days Annual Vacation
15-Dec-15 17-Jan-16 35 days Annual Vacation
JIL
Re: Absence Since Arrived in UK - Any Issues?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:16 pm
by jilpangs
10-Dec-10 13-Jan-11 35 days Annual Vacation
02-Dec-11 29-Feb-12 90 days Medical Treatment This will be your problem as you were not 'physically present in the UK' on the 15th February 2011, which is the start of your qualifying period for citizenship. If you apply as planned, your application will be refused.
Thanks CR01. I was physically present on 15-Feb-2011.
I came back from vacation on 13-Jan-11 and lived in UK until 02-Dec-2011 before i went for 90 days treatment.
Can you please clarify.
Re: Absence Since Arrived in UK - Any Issues?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:18 pm
by CR001
Sorry, correct yes, I misread the dates.
Re: Absence Since Arrived in UK - Any Issues?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:21 pm
by jilpangs
CR001 wrote:Sorry, correct yes, I misread the dates.
No worries. So i'm good to go and apply on 15-Feb-2016 as planned?
Re: Absence Since Arrived in UK - Any Issues?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:23 pm
by CR001
Should be fine yes.
Re: Absence Since Arrived in UK - Any Issues?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:30 pm
by jilpangs
Great. Thanks CR001
Naturalisation + Passport together
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:50 pm
by jilpangs
Hi,
I'm indian national and hold Indian Passport currently. I have heard we need to surrender Indian Passport
before getting British Passport (Is this right)?
But i see people applying for Naturalisation + Passport together. So, is it not like at one point in time
they will have 2 country passports? Is this allowed and do we have any time limit to then surrender Indian passport?
JIL
Re: Naturalisation + Passport together
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:59 pm
by CR001
Only certain councils are offering the pilot scheme. If you are using NCS at one that does not, then you still have to apply for your passport after your ceremony.
You have 90 days from date of ceremony to surrender your passport.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:02 pm
by CR001
Please don't start a new thread with every question you have on the same application.
Multiple Posting (Click)
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:08 pm
by jilpangs
Apologies CR001 and thanks for reorg of my queries.
So if my local NCS have the pilot option i can apply for Naturalization + Passport.
And is it mandatory that i need to surrender Indian passport (IP) once attending Ceremony (or 90 days from there)
OR
i can wait till i get British Passport (BP) before i surrender my IP.?
Just in case if any issues and delays in getting BP after ceremony and i already surrendered by IP.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:13 pm
by CR001
jilpangs wrote:i can wait till i get British Passport (BP) before i surrender my IP.?
This one, as it is WITHIN 90 days. You need your British passport in order to surrender.
Please ask any questions about Indian passport/OCI process in the 'Other Forums' section further down on the main forum page.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:51 pm
by jilpangs
Ok. Thanks
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:13 pm
by jilpangs
NOW, about FEES.
I'm going through this document.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _07_21.pdf
It states, "Fees must be paid in full at the same time as you send your application(s) to the Home Office".
As im using NCS, should i pay fees to them using my CREDIT / DEBIT / Other means ? It doesnt say where to pay. But it says "You may pay by cheque or credit/debit card. Please send your payment with the payment slip attached to this leaflet. Page 4 got a slip. So do they mean i just need to fill in my card details there and handover to NCS?
If yes, then actually my card is not debited at the time of application. So going back to the first line "Fees must be paid in full at the same time as you send your application(s) to the Home Office" doesnt make sense to me (Fees must be paid - I HAVENT PAID anything yet at this point)
Can someone please clarify?
Thanks
JIL
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:22 pm
by CR001
You need to complete the fee leaflet. NCS do not take the payment.
Last page in link below
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _07_21.pdf
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:38 pm
by jilpangs
Thank you CR001.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:41 pm
by CR001
You are welcome.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:59 pm
by jilpangs
Hi,
"Section 1.1 Please give ... Home office reference no. "
What is HO Ref no? and where can i find it?
If it's the BRP Card, then should i fill in BRP Card no ? same info i already filled in Section 6 - BIO metrics details.
Also, section 1.17 - as per my first message in this thread. I have an absence of 90 days. I was outside UK so what address should i fill in ? OR can i leave this period as Gap and fill in the UK address prior to that?
Thanks
Jil
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:12 pm
by CR001
You can leave 1.1 blank.
1.17 - you can write 'extended holiday in home country' and provide the address if you did not have an address in the UK during that time.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:17 pm
by jilpangs
Yes for those 90 days i didnt have an address as i vacated my house. I wasnt sure how long the treatment might take hence vacated house.
So i should give "Indian Address" for those 90 days? Will it create any problems to my application?
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:37 pm
by CR001
It shouldn't no, your were there temporarily and came back.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:53 pm
by jilpangs
Ok, should i then attach any medical reports to support my case? for those 90 days?
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:20 pm
by CR001
If you wish to but there shouldn't be any questions about it.
Re: Citizenship - Couple of Questions
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:32 pm
by Sofiathefirst
I also had a long gap of about 4 months in which I had to go to my home country to take care of my ill mom. I have just written UK address and shown the gap in the absence section. Now I'm wondering if i should change it or leave it as it is.