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When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:19 am
by GoodB

GoodB
I have been issued UK blue travel document in June 2010 and it expired june 2015.
Am I eligible to apply for british passport straight away or i have to apply for naturalisation before british passport? Please advise me of right procedure in applying british passport
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:20 am
by Casa
The entitlement to a British passport will only come after being granted British citizenship. They are completely separate processes.
Do you have ILR? If not, why haven't you applied for a new document?
"If an HOTD has expired or is full, the holder must apply for a new HOTD by completing
application form TD112 BRP and paying the appropriate fee. An existing HOTD cannot be
extended."
ILR is also a requirement before qualifying for BC.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:20 am
by GoodB
Casa wrote:The entitlement to a British passport will only come after being granted British citizenship. They are completely separate processes.
Do you have ILR? If not, why haven't you applied for a new document?
"If an HOTD has expired or is full, the holder must apply for a new HOTD by completing
application form TD112 BRP and paying the appropriate fee. An existing HOTD cannot be
extended."
ILR is also a requirement before qualifying for BC.
I applied for indefinite Leave To Remain but I was granted Leave to Remain until Nov2018 on Biometric Residence Card.Can I apply for ILR on 2017 or I have to wait until Nov 2018?
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:33 am
by Casa
Why were you refused ILR? You will only qualify for British citizenship after 12 months holding ILR unless married to a BC.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:40 am
by GoodB
Casa wrote:Why were you refused ILR? You will only qualify for British citizenship after 12 months holding ILR unless married to a BC.
They didn't tell me why. They only stated article and law being reason whicj i don't understand in lane-man terms.
My friend also holds blue travel docs and explained that after his blue travel docs expired he applied for indefinite but was given extension for another two years so i thought it was normal.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:42 am
by Casa
Do you still have the refusal and if so, are you able to post it here (minus any personal details)?
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:00 pm
by GoodB
Casa wrote:Do you still have the refusal and if so, are you able to post it here (minus any personal details)?
Letter says
"Notice of Rejection"
ADMINISTRATION REVIEW FOR REJECTION:
Thank you for application of 05th December 2015 for an administration review of decision of on your application for settlement Protection-Indefinite Leave To Remain. We are unable to accept because it is invalid and therefore it will not be considered.
Reasons why application has been rejected:
Administration review application must meet the requirement of paragraphs 34L to 34Y of the immigration rules (HC395), as well as the immigration Nationality (Fees) regulations, in order to be valid,
we have rejected the application for the following reason(s):
The application must be about "eligible decision",that is,one specify in immigration rules as eligible for administration review. The decision that you have applied to have reviewed is not eligible for administrative review.".. End of Letter
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:13 pm
by CR001
What was the refusal of the ILR application. Not the AR.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:15 pm
by Casa
This is a refusal of your application for an Administrative Review following a refusal of ILR. What reason was given for refusing the ILR application?
Edit: Beaten by CR001 due to my slow editing.

Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:19 pm
by GoodB
Casa wrote:This is a refusal of your application for an Administrative Review following a refusal of ILR. What reason was given for refusing the ILR application?
Edit: Beaten by CR001 due to my slow editing.

There was "No" refusal
They just replied me in post with biometric residence card (until 2018)after applying for Indefinite Leave To Remain
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:21 pm
by CR001
There must have been correspondence. You can't just apply for AR if you don't know what you are applying for AR for.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:27 pm
by GoodB
CR001 wrote:There must have been correspondence. You can't just apply for AR if you don't know what you are applying for AR for.
There was not no any correspondent.
They have replied me with biometric residence card after applying indefinite Leave to remain
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:33 pm
by GoodB
CR001 wrote:There must have been correspondence. You can't just apply for AR if you don't know what you are applying for AR for.
After they replied me with Biometric Residence Card I replied to them saying their decision was wrong because I did not apply to the Biometric Residence Card (card valid un 2018) but for Indefinite Leave To Remain. I went online and applied for Administrative review of their decision for Indefinite Leave To Remain.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:36 pm
by CR001
It might help if you actually list your full immigration history. Without it, I don't think anyone can offer helpful advice.
What exactly does your BRP card say?? What correspondence did you get with the BRP card? Did you use a solicitor for your ILR application?
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:42 pm
by GoodB
CR001 wrote:It might help if you actually list your full immigration history. Without it, I don't think anyone can offer helpful advice.
What exactly does your BRP card say?? What correspondence did you get with the BRP card? Did you use a solicitor for your ILR application?
No I did not use a solicitor for my application.
I did it on my own.
My Biometric Card says:
Residence Permit : RExxxxxxx
Name: Bxxxxx
Valid Until
27-11-2018
Place and date of issue
UK 27-11-2015
Type of permit
Refugee
Remarks:
Work permitted
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:56 pm
by GoodB
GoodB wrote:CR001 wrote:It might help if you actually list your full immigration history. Without it, I don't think anyone can offer helpful advice.
What exactly does your BRP card say?? What correspondence did you get with the BRP card? Did you use a solicitor for your ILR application?
No I did not use a solicitor for my application.
I did it on my own.
My Biometric Card says:
Residence Permit : RExxxxxxx
Name: Bxxxxx
Valid Until
27-11-2018
Place and date of issue
UK 27-11-2015
Type of permit
Refugee
Remarks:
Work permitted
NOTE: I also have A REFUGEE STATUS from march 2010 - June 2015 on travel docs. after this expired that when I applied for indefinite Leave and it was rejected. I think I did the application on my own and di not wrongly. Please advise
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:06 pm
by Casa
Perhaps it's because you failed to apply for ILR before your travel document expired.
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:11 pm
by GoodB
GoodB wrote:GoodB wrote:CR001 wrote:It might help if you actually list your full immigration history. Without it, I don't think anyone can offer helpful advice.
What exactly does your BRP card say?? What correspondence did you get with the BRP card? Did you use a solicitor for your ILR application?
No I did not use a solicitor for my application.
I did it on my own.
My Biometric Card says:
Residence Permit : RExxxxxxx
Name: Bxxxxx
Valid Until
27-11-2018
Place and date of issue
UK 27-11-2015
Type of permit
Refugee
Remarks:
Work permitted
NOTE: I also have A REFUGEE STATUS from march 2010 - June 2015 on travel docs. after this expired that when I applied for indefinite Leave and it was rejected. I think I did the application on my own and di not wrongly. Please advise
NOTE: i did NOT pay any fee bcos friends told me that refugees don't have to pay a fee for applying for indefinite Leave
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:52 pm
by GoodB
Thats that mean there was something wrong with my application and needed a solicitor to do it for me?
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:55 pm
by GoodB
My status did not expired before I applied . I applied exactly a month before the expire date on travel docs
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:13 pm
by Casa
You're correct that there is no fee payable for this category but did you apply on form SET(P)?
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _04-16.pdf
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:25 pm
by GoodB
Yes i used this forms but it was set april 2015 forms
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:27 pm
by GoodB
GoodB wrote:Yes i used this forms but it was set april 2015 forms
I use SET (P) Aril 2015 forms
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:40 pm
by GoodB
Can you recommend a professional solicitor who can look at it for me?
I had been convicted for harassment in october 2015 for sending messages on facebook to a university colleaque. calling him chimpanzee with HIV which the court referred to as harassment and derogatory . Will that be the reason?
Re: When to apply for Naturalisation?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:53 pm
by Casa
Ah! Yes it could well be. ILR refused under 'good character'.