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EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:31 pm
by Raff113
Hi I have query and hope you can clarify the matter for me. I am an EEA citizen, and have just been granted british citizenship (well just have received approval letter). My wife is EEA as well but has not done her PR just yet (application still pending). We have 3 kids, aged 12, 8 and 5. The eldest one was born in EU country, but the younger ones have been born here. We moved to the UK when the eldest one was 3 years old (9 years ago).
now, how do we get around registering them as British Citizens? I received my PR after our kids were born. Many thanks.
Re: EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:40 pm
by noajthan
Raff113 wrote:Hi I have query and hope you can clarify the matter for me. I am an EEA citizen, and have just been granted british citizenship (well just have received approval letter). My wife is EEA as well but has not done her PR just yet (application still pending). We have 3 kids, aged 12, 8 and 5. The eldest one was born in EU country, but the younger ones have been born here. We moved to the UK when the eldest one was 3 years old (9 years ago).
now, how do we get around registering them as British Citizens? I received my PR after our kids were born. Many thanks.
Register UK-born children as citizens based on one parent being settled/BC.
Form MN1; section 1(3) of BNA.
This can be done anytime and this registration is an entitlement.
Eldest child needs PR status.
With 9 years in UK child should have acquired PR via parent/sponsor.
A DCPR card is not required but rock-solid proof of acquiring PR is required.
Then register at Home Secretary's discretion (not an entitlement in this case); again with form MN1 but section 3(1) of BNA.
This eldest child's needs careful timing in coordination with parent's naturalisation.
Re: EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:46 pm
by Raff113
noajthan wrote:Raff113 wrote:Hi I have query and hope you can clarify the matter for me. I am an EEA citizen, and have just been granted british citizenship (well just have received approval letter). My wife is EEA as well but has not done her PR just yet (application still pending). We have 3 kids, aged 12, 8 and 5. The eldest one was born in EU country, but the younger ones have been born here. We moved to the UK when the eldest one was 3 years old (9 years ago).
now, how do we get around registering them as British Citizens? I received my PR after our kids were born. Many thanks.
Register UK-born children as citizens based on one parent being settled/BC.
Form MN1; section 1(3) of BNA.
This can be done anytime and this registration is an entitlement.
Eldest child needs PR status.
With 9 years in UK child should have acquired PR via parent/sponsor.
A DCPR/PRC card is not required but rock-solid proof of acquiring PR is required.
Then register at Home Secretary's discretion; again with form MN1 but section 3(1) of BNA.
This eldest child's needs careful timing in coordination with parent's naturalisation.
What sort of proof? She has never left the country for any other occasion than for holidays,is this it? Can you elaborate on what exactly do I need to time properly with the eldest one? thanks!
Re: EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:59 pm
by noajthan
Raff113 wrote:What sort of proof? She has never left the country for any other occasion than for holidays,is this it? Can you elaborate on what exactly do I need to time properly with the eldest one? thanks!
You would have to supply full PR evidence for child based on parent as sponsor. So use PR guides as guidance.
Time child's application to be filed with parent's naturalisation application. Or else to be filed after parent's successful naturalisation.
Re: EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:05 pm
by Raff113
Many thanks for your help. so, in simple terms, for the eldest one I need to provide proof for her PR (which will be easy in our case) and apply with MN1 form after my citizenship ceremony, right?
Re: EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:16 pm
by noajthan
Raff113 wrote:Many thanks for your help. so, in simple terms, for the eldest one I need to provide proof for her PR (which will be easy in our case) and apply with MN1 form after my citizenship ceremony, right?
You could apply for eldest child with 2nd parent's naturalisation application OR after 2nd parent's ceremony - that is after 2nd parent has at least acquired PR.
fyi - both parents have to be BC or settled and naturalising in connection with a 3(1) application for a minor.
And you will have to be sure of no slipups.
As once you are also British you can't sponsor your child in future. That is if confirmation is refused for any reason and child's PR clock has to start again.
Re: EEA children
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:38 pm
by Raff113
Ok that is all clear now. Thank you!
When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:52 pm
by Raff113
Hello everyone,hope you all have a good day.
I would like to ask when would my wife be entitled to naturalize as a BC. She has just received her PR card, so I understand that she has to wait a year before she can apply. But does it make a difference that we have been married for 13 years and I just recently got naturalized?
Would she, in this case be able to apply earlier? We are both EEA. Many thanks
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:54 pm
by ohara
No need to wait 12 months if married to a BC
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:55 pm
by Casa
As the spouse of a British national, assuming your wife meets all the standard requirements (absence, language, good character etc) she can apply now. No need to wait 12 months.
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:21 pm
by Raff113
She does meet all the requirements, her application would be as straightforward as could possibly be. So, from what you are saying, she can apply as soon as has passed LITUK and english? Wow we did not have a clue about that!
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:23 pm
by ohara
Yes, if you are the spouse of a British citizen, there is no requirement to wait 12 months after acquiring settled status.
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:25 pm
by noajthan
Raff113 wrote:She does meet all the requirements, her application would be as straightforward as could possibly be. So, from what you are saying, she can apply as soon as has passed LITUK and english? Wow we did not have a clue about that!
The clue is in the freely available AN guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... r_2016.pdf
Suggest get up to speed to avoid expensive mistakes. Oh and, as final sanity-check, suggest apply via NCS.
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:32 pm
by Raff113
noajthan wrote:Raff113 wrote:She does meet all the requirements, her application would be as straightforward as could possibly be. So, from what you are saying, she can apply as soon as has passed LITUK and english? Wow we did not have a clue about that!
The clue is in the freely available AN guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... r_2016.pdf
Suggest get up to speed to avoid expensive mistakes. Oh and, as final sanity-check, suggest apply via NCS.
Thanks! We will have to time it right now though. We don't want it to be too quick as still have to sort our daughter's MN1 application. But as soon as it is done, (and obviously when my wife has done all the tests),will defiantely use NCS. I have nothing but a good experience, thanks again!
Re: When can my wife apply for BC
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:36 pm
by Raff113
Just a thought
could my wife apply together with my daughter (12 years of age)? At the same time?
Re: EEA children
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:46 pm
by noajthan
noajthan wrote:You could apply for eldest child with 2nd parent's naturalisation application OR after 2nd parent's ceremony - that is after 2nd parent has at least acquired PR.
fyi - both parents have to be BC or settled and naturalising in connection with a 3(1) application for a minor.
Re: EEA children
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:52 pm
by Raff113
noajthan wrote:noajthan wrote:You could apply for eldest child with 2nd parent's naturalisation application OR after 2nd parent's ceremony - that is after 2nd parent has at least acquired PR.
fyi - both parents have to be BC or settled and naturalising in connection with a 3(1) application for a minor.
thanks for merging the topics noajthan.
Should have read more carefully, thanks again
