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Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passport
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:13 pm
by Condor82
Hi there,
I live in London and I have been naturalised few days ago, therefore now I have dual citizenship British/Italian.
I'd like to apply for a British passport and on the online form it's written that:
"Applying from the UK - you must send us the original non-British passport and provide the number below"
Does that apply to British citizen as well?
I'll be more happy to provide the number of the certificate of naturalisation than my Italian passport, I travel a lot and I need it.
Please let me know,
Many thanks!
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:14 pm
by CR001
You are required to submit your foreign passport. HMPO won't issue a passport if you don't send it.
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:25 pm
by Condor82
Can I go through NCS or alternative service to certify authenticity of my Italian passport?
When I applied for naturalisation I went through NCS but I had no idea I could request a passport as well.
I remember was quite expensive.
I heard that I do need to make sure I was present 5 years ago or something like that from the date I apply for the passport or from the date I send the original passport. Is that true?
I'm British now so I guess they checked all these things before...
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:40 am
by CR001
Condor82 wrote:Can I go through NCS or alternative service to certify authenticity of my Italian passport?
There is no such service for passports.
When I applied for naturalisation I went through NCS but I had no idea I could request a passport as well.
Yes, this would have been the ONLY way to do both applications.
I remember was quite expensive.
No really, less than £100 to use NCS compared the actually fee for citizenship 
I heard that I do need to make sure I was present 5 years ago or something like that from the date I apply for the passport or from the date I send the original passport. Is that true?
This is a requirement for CITIZENSHIP and NOT for applying for a passport.
I'm British now so I guess they checked all these things before...
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:43 am
by Condor82
What if I send them my Italian ID instead of my Italian electronic passport? Would that work?
Many thanks.
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:30 am
by alterhase58
Condor82 wrote:What if I send them my Italian ID instead of my Italian electronic passport? Would that work?
Many thanks.
I was in the same situation but I had a travel free period of a few weeks before Christmas. Perhaps wait for such a time? I applied online beginning of Dec 2016 and received passport within 7 working days (which included the interview).
The issue here is not one of proving your identity - that will be finally established at the first passport interview. HMPO want to ensure that people don't hold multiple travel documents in different names.
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:38 am
by Condor82
That makes sense.
But can I send them the Italian ID instead of the Italian electronic passport?
(If I travel I prefer to use my passport although ID is valid as well)
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:20 pm
by alterhase58
You need to pose the question to HMPO - the only advice I have seen is as per the HMPO instruction, i.e. submit all uncancelled passports as mentioned above.
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:54 pm
by Condor82
-What about the certificate of naturalisation?
Should it be the original or a copy?
- Is it compulsory the signature of a countersignatory?
I do not know anyone that can help
Many thanks.
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:58 pm
by CR001
Condor82 wrote:-What about the certificate of naturalisation?
Should it be the original or a copy? Original
- Is it compulsory the signature of a countersignatory? Yes it is compulsory. Presumably having lived and worked in the UK for 5 years, you know someone.
I do not know anyone that can help
Many thanks.
Re: Please Help: Applying for my first adult British passpor
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:34 pm
by Condor82
[quote="CR001"][quote="Condor82"]-What about the certificate of naturalisation?
Should it be the original or a copy? Original
- Is it compulsory the signature of a countersignatory? Yes it is compulsory. Presumably having lived and worked in the UK for 5 years, you know someone.
There is a friend of mine that is a Senior Consultant (User Research) would that work? I read that surveyor is in the list of approved professions not sure about the one mentioned above.
Many thanks