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Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:23 pm
by aaliya1986
Hi All,

I got ILR this year and plan to apply for the British Citizenship next year January 2019.

The question is that, i think i will have traveled more than 90 days. approx 100-110 days.

Will this be okay? or i will have to wait until the number of days fall to 90?

Any previous experiences will also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:23 pm
by aaliya1986
any help or suggestions anyone?

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:28 pm
by CR001
Usually an absence of 100-110 will be disregarded.

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:49 pm
by srivisaN
CR001 wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:28 pm
Usually an absence of 100-110 will be disregarded.
So you mean to they are not strict about 100 days, will they consider 110 days.. is this applicable to 300 / 480 for section 6 (2) / section 6 (1)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:00 pm
by Mrchaany
Under 100 day absence is normal but more then 100 day will apply for discretion

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:30 am
by aaliya1986
Mrchaany wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:00 pm
Under 100 day absence is normal but more then 100 day will apply for discretion
so do you mean that if instead of 90 days if my holidays were 98 days, it will be ignored but if it was 110 days it will be a problem?

again i am not intending to do this but its good to know because you never know when you will have to travel and after the ILR its really hard to control on travelling :oops:

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:52 am
by aaliya1986
hi,

i think my holidays will exceed to 110 days. will it be okay?

will the ukvi ignore the extra 10 days?

please let me know as i really want to apply for the naturalisation as early as possible

many thanks in advance. :)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:33 am
by aaliya1986
any help please.?

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:03 am
by ajitk1
As people here are trying to help they will only inform what the guidance says.
The moderator said 100-110 is disregarded.
NOBODY can tell you precisely how many days 98 or 100 or 110 days will be ignored.
It is discretionary and that itself means it depends on the case worker.
Its best you don't go over the limit. If you do then you have to wait for as long as it takes.
You can try even if you want to go upto 200 but you are risking your money. Definite Rejection! Nobody here can help you. Going by the rules is the safest bet. Asking precise number of dates under these circumstances in this forum is insane

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:04 pm
by muraenidae
See guidelines here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 2.0EXT.pdf

On page 16:
Total absences

• of 100 days or less: exercise discretion

• between 100 and 180 days, where the residence requirement across the qualifying period is met : discretion
is only appropriate where the applicant demonstrates strong links through the presence of family, employment and their home in the UK
So only up to 100 days is normally disregarded. Between 100 and 180 days, you need to demonstrate strong links to the UK.

Personally I would not risk going over 100 days if possible. How long do you have to wait with your application to get below 100 again?

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:12 pm
by aaliya1986
muraenidae wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:04 pm
See guidelines here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 2.0EXT.pdf

On page 16:
Total absences

• of 100 days or less: exercise discretion

• between 100 and 180 days, where the residence requirement across the qualifying period is met : discretion
is only appropriate where the applicant demonstrates strong links through the presence of family, employment and their home in the UK
So only up to 100 days is normally disregarded. Between 100 and 180 days, you need to demonstrate strong links to the UK.

Personally I would not risk going over 100 days if possible. How long do you have to wait with your application to get below 100 again?
thank you for the reply :)

i think i will go 10 days above the 100 days.

to bring it back under 100 days i will have to wait further 2 - 3 months.


thanks.

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:03 pm
by muraenidae
aaliya1986 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:12 pm
i think i will go 10 days above the 100 days.

to bring it back under 100 days i will have to wait further 2 - 3 months.
If you're not in a particular hurry, I'd probably wait the 2-3 months until I'm below 100 to be sure. I wouldn't risk losing the application fee over this. Who knows if they'll be satisfied at your "strong links" (do you have family here? do you own your own house in the UK? are you employed?). Also, the decision may well take longer if you're above 100 days and they have to check your strong links, so you might not even save time by applying earlier.

But that's of course just my opinion. :)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:38 pm
by aaliya1986
muraenidae wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:03 pm
aaliya1986 wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:12 pm
i think i will go 10 days above the 100 days.

to bring it back under 100 days i will have to wait further 2 - 3 months.
If you're not in a particular hurry, I'd probably wait the 2-3 months until I'm below 100 to be sure. I wouldn't risk losing the application fee over this. Who knows if they'll be satisfied at your "strong links" (do you have family here? do you own your own house in the UK? are you employed?). Also, the decision may well take longer if you're above 100 days and they have to check your strong links, so you might not even save time by applying earlier.

But that's of course just my opinion. :)
thank you, really appreciate the honest opinions.

family, yes i have some family here
own house, no but i will be able to show that i am trying to save towards buying a house (will help to buy account prove that?)
employed, yes i am employed

i will in that case wait for the days to drop below 100 or try not to exceed the 100 days and then apply because i do not want to get rejected.

many thanks

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:07 am
by aaliya1986
hi all,

as the time approaches i have a much better and clearer situation infront of me.

I have been outside the uk for 110 days and do not plan to travel anymore until 12 months are up.

my question is,

my 12 months complete on January 2018 with 110 days.

12 months complete on March 2018 with 90 days.

I really really want to apply asap but i am just thinking whether the application will be rejected. Any success stories who have got their citizenship applications approved and had 110 days of away days from the UK.

Really appreciate the answers in advance.

Thanks. :)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:00 pm
by aaliya1986
bump

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:26 am
by aaliya1986
aaliya1986 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:07 am
hi all,

as the time approaches i have a much better and clearer situation infront of me.

I have been outside the uk for 110 days and do not plan to travel anymore until 12 months are up.

my question is,

my 12 months complete on January 2018 with 110 days.

12 months complete on March 2018 with 90 days.

I really really want to apply asap but i am just thinking whether the application will be rejected. Any success stories who have got their citizenship applications approved and had 110 days of away days from the UK.

Really appreciate the answers in advance.

Thanks. :)
any response to this? :)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:47 am
by Mrchaany
March 2018 is gone
Please put correct dates
90 or less the 100 days is fine

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:39 pm
by aaliya1986
Mrchaany wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:47 am
March 2018 is gone
Please put correct dates
90 or less the 100 days is fine
apologies. I meant 2019.

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:40 pm
by aaliya1986
dates updated.

I have been outside the uk for 110 days and do not plan to travel anymore until 12 months are up.

my question is,

my 12 months complete on January 2019 with 110 days.

12 months complete on March 2019 with 90 days.

I really really want to apply asap but i am just thinking whether the application will be rejected. Any success stories who have got their citizenship applications approved and had 110 days of away days from the UK.

Really appreciate the answers in advance.

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:42 pm
by CR001
No one can make this decision for you. You need to decide if you want to take the risk and apply in January. It is your £1330 that will be lost if you are refused.

You have been given advice in this topic, perhaps read the whole thread again and make a decision.

To be honest, for the sake of a few weeks, why can you not apply in March?? What exactly is the 'rush to apply asap'??

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:53 pm
by double2double5
I applied in May 2018 with absence of 156 days; I sought discretion and my application was approved in the normal time frame. The caveats are:

1) I explained the reason for my absence very clearly in my covering letter (it wasn't Crown Service or Merchant Navy).
2) I had every single document, every date of visa application, biometrics date, every pay slip recorded for the last 8 years which I duly submitted
3) I have no convictions, no parking fines, my licence has zero points, never overstayed, no CCJ etc

Do you think your application is just as watertight? If so, there is no harm but I would ask the same question as CR001 - can you not wait for 8 more weeks? I would have had to wait for 24 weeks to bring my absence down to 90 days (assuming not leaving the country at all). I had plenty of business travel scheduled in between. That plus having to waste 2, 3 hours each time (for 10 entries in the last few months) at Heathrow was simply not acceptable to me.

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:23 pm
by aaliya1986
CR001 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:42 pm
No one can make this decision for you. You need to decide if you want to take the risk and apply in January. It is your £1330 that will be lost if you are refused.

You have been given advice in this topic, perhaps read the whole thread again and make a decision.

To be honest, for the sake of a few weeks, why can you not apply in March?? What exactly is the 'rush to apply asap'??
thanks CR001. i understand and i have gone through the thread. I can apply in March but because of the hassle of going through immigration at the airport i really want to get the passport asap. Having to stand at the airport for 2 hours is too much. same for EU countries where you have to stand in the immigration queue.
moreover, i just want to get it so i can start travelling.
double2double5 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:53 pm
I applied in May 2018 with absence of 156 days; I sought discretion and my application was approved in the normal time frame. The caveats are:

1) I explained the reason for my absence very clearly in my covering letter (it wasn't Crown Service or Merchant Navy).
2) I had every single document, every date of visa application, biometrics date, every pay slip recorded for the last 8 years which I duly submitted
3) I have no convictions, no parking fines, my licence has zero points, never overstayed, no CCJ etc

Do you think your application is just as watertight? If so, there is no harm but I would ask the same question as CR001 - can you not wait for 8 more weeks? I would have had to wait for 24 weeks to bring my absence down to 90 days (assuming not leaving the country at all). I had plenty of business travel scheduled in between. That plus having to waste 2, 3 hours each time (for 10 entries in the last few months) at Heathrow was simply not acceptable to me.
thanks for your reply. My application is also same as yours. i can explain in my covering letter that my 8-10 days absence excess is due to mother illness.
i have all the application numbers, dates, brp numbers, pp numbers. you name it i will have it.
i even have all the ticket copies, which i used to travel
no convictions, parking fines or etc.
i can wait to bring the absence number down but i really am reluctant to wait :(


thanks both for your replies :)

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:50 pm
by MajidAhmad
aaliya1986 wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:23 pm
Hi All,

I got ILR this year and plan to apply for the British Citizenship next year January 2019.

The question is that, i think i will have traveled more than 90 days. approx 100-110 days.

Will this be okay? or i will have to wait until the number of days fall to 90?

Any previous experiences will also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)
Hello mate, how are you?

I am in same situation but I am due to apply in June. I been travelling for 135 days to Sweden due to family reason. I know you mention you applied in January 2019. Did it cause any delay or problem to you case. if yes what advice would give me please.

I am now using solicitor just because I been over 90 days.

Re: Absence of more than 90 days

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:56 pm
by CR001
MajidAhmad wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:50 pm
aaliya1986 wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:23 pm
Hi All,

I got ILR this year and plan to apply for the British Citizenship next year January 2019.

The question is that, i think i will have traveled more than 90 days. approx 100-110 days.

Will this be okay? or i will have to wait until the number of days fall to 90?

Any previous experiences will also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)
Hello mate, how are you?

I am in same situation but I am due to apply in June. I been travelling for 135 days to Sweden due to family reason. I know you mention you applied in January 2019. Did it cause any delay or problem to you case. if yes what advice would give me please.

I am now using solicitor just because I been over 90 days.
Kindly start your own topic instead of digging up topics that are a year old and tagging on.