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Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:33 pm
by dcot78
Dear all,

I've just read a post that some one has withdrawal his naturalisation application due to HMRC tax penalty.

I have also applied for naturalisation and one of my tax penalty is in process with HMRC and I've filled up the appeal.

I wasn't sure that I have to declare HMRC penalty notices because who ever I've asked they've said It is not necessary.

I am quiet worried now, could you please share your experiences or information or shall I withdraw my application too ?

Let me know please.

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:38 pm
by cyclina1
Even you withdraw your application you cannot get the application fee back except 80 pounds.

If you are appealing it then you can wait until the result, if you win the appeal it won't harm your application.

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:46 pm
by dcot78
But does this HMRC penalty effects your naturalisation application ?

I've even checked on the naturalisation application form and no where they ask you about these tax penalties.

Don't know the right answer ...

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:42 pm
by alterhase58
Penalties for late filings are common, both for individuals and companies, though if you are a serial offender that might count against you. Late penalties are a fact of life, as are under or over payments of taxes. I believe what is important is that you can demonstrate that you keep to your arrangements with HMRC,i.e. file and pay taxes, both current and back taxes, where you incur penalties,pay them or appeal them and stick to any payment plans agreed.
If HMRC were to take you to court that could be a different ball game and if you are found guilty of criminal charges that would definitely have to be declared.
I am happy if someone else can explain it better, even prove me wrong but I can't remember a case being quoted here where someone was refused for accidental under-payment of taxes. Happens to me every year.

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:46 pm
by Hassan7861
Just pay them and u will be fine almost 90 % of working class people in uk get hmrc penalties its not a big deal as long as u pay everything before u apply for your BC

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:23 pm
by dontringthebell
After I stopped working in 2012, during financial year 2012-13, I folded my company and filed the last return. Got ILR in 2016, unfortunately though just before I was about to apply for citizenship last year I was hit by 1600+900+900+300+100GBP penalty from HMRC for late filing of self assessment. The breakup given is how they showed in each penalty notice though they arrived at once first time in 2017.

I explained to HMRC that I've been unemployed and I'm not required to file, however, due to initial notices pertaining to 2013-14 & 2014-15 and the agent on phone unable to edit or revoke I had to submit a written appeal which took 6 months to clear. They did their checks and every single penny of penalty was revoked.

Luckily enough this communication between myself and HMRC became my evidence of presence in UK for the immediate 6 months period preceding my application date starting from the date of expiry of my passport.

My citizenship application took 6 months to clear however not a single question was asked. I did not declare the penalty but did submit communication as proof of residence in UK.

Can't say if it directly relates to this post, but just for throwing some perspective I know HO gets a lot of flack, but there are times when honesty and genuinity get there due too.

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:11 pm
by dcot78
My citizenship has been approved, thanks to all of you for your kind information :)

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:36 pm
by Mark420
Hi, Bro

Congratulations

Can you please share what penalty you had before or after BC application from HMRC.

Your experience will help others.

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:45 pm
by dcot78
Mark420 wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 12:36 pm
Hi, Bro

Congratulations

Can you please share what penalty you had before or after BC application from HMRC.

Your experience will help others.
I had a tax penalty which was raised by HMRC last year, they placed me in self-assessment which is their fault because I've never been self-employed. I applied an appeal against this penalty which is in process from last six months as HMRC response is very slow.

I did pay the penalty and also applied for an appeal to remove this penalty. I was worried as I read a post on this forum that someone has withdrawn his application due to tax penalty. I never had any bad history even all taxes are paid and I also paid the tax penalty. I don't think HMRC penalties effects this naturalisation process but depends if someone has really bad history.

N.B: My tax penalty was issued a long time ago before naturalisation.

Re: Regarding HMRC Penalty for Naturalisation

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:53 pm
by Neo001
Hi
Any update on your case?.

Thank you