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British citizen application - future intentions question
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:22 pm
by cs007
Hi everyone,
I obtained my ILR earlier this year through long residence and am current thinking about applying for British Citizenship in the future. Having read the guidances, I am a little confused about the future intentions condition. I am currently an undergraduate student and my future plan is to stay in the UK to live and work permanently. However, I don't own any properties in the UK and I don't have a job with an UK employer yet as I am studying. When I apply for naturalisation how do I demonstrate to UKVI that I plan to stay here permanently?
Thanks very much for your responses in advance!
Re: British citizen application - future intentions question
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:36 pm
by CR001
There is no requirement to own a property or be employed.
The future intentions aspect question simply needs to be answered in the form and if you intend to live in the UK, then that is what you state.
The refusals on this point in the past have been due to applicants stating they either live abroad or intend to live in XX country, thereby failing the requirement.
Re: British citizen application - future intentions question
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:19 pm
by cs007
CR001 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:36 pm
There is no requirement to own a property or be employed.
The future intentions aspect question simply needs to be answered in the form and if you intend to live in the UK, then that is what you state.
The refusals on this point in the past have been due to applicants stating they either live abroad or intend to live in XX country, thereby failing the requirement.
Thanks very much for your reply CR001. So essentially I just need to state that I intend to stay in the UK permanently which is my plan on the application form and they will see this as evidence to tick the future intentions box?
Also if you don't mind I have a question on the 90 days absence rule in the last 12 months for naturalisation. So I am most likely to go back to NZ later this year to do a lab project for 4 months. Therefore I will breach the 90 day absence rule in the last 12 month. Can I wait for another year to apply for naturalisation when my absence in the last 12 months before applying is below 90 days?
Many thanks!
Re: British citizen application - future intentions question
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:57 pm
by CR001
HO usually disregard absences of up to 100/110 days, so as long as you can get your absence within that range, you should be ok.
Re: British citizen application - future intentions question
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:26 am
by srivisaN
does the same rule applies to section 6(1) 300 days, section 6 (2) 480 days, will they disregard 310 or 490 days respectively.
Physical Presence in the UK at the start of the qualifying period
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:54 pm
by cs007
Hey everyone,
I am due to apply for BC very soon and understand that if my application is made on say 10 Sep 2018 then I have to be physically present in the UK on 11 Sep 2013. I am just wondering if on 11 Sep 2013 I came back to the UK from a short trip in France, and the UK entry stamp on my passport says 11 Sep 2013, was I physically present in the UK on that day even if it was not a whole day and will I get a rejection based on that?
Would really appreciate if moderators or senior members can shed some light. Many thanks!
C
Re: Physical Presence in the UK at the start of the qualifying period
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:00 pm
by alterhase58
I would advise to pick a later date, just to avoid any issues. Maybe the 12th or 13th?
A day or two later won't make a difference, except your application won't be returned.
Re: Physical Presence in the UK at the start of the qualifying period
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:34 pm
by cs007
Thanks
But technically speaking would it count as presence in the UK if I was in the UK for less than 24 hours on that day? Many thanks!
Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:00 pm
by cs007
Hi everyone,
I am filling out the form AN right now and question 1.8 says "If you are or have ever been known by any name or names, such as a name from an earlier marriage or an alias name, apart from those mentioned above, give details here". I am not sure what to put here because my passport name is really long and hard to pronounce and I have a nickname ie Paul that my friends call me by. I am not sure if I should put this nickname down here? I have never changed my legal name throughout my life though.
Could any experts on this forum please advise?
Thanks very much!
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:58 am
by Ffmuni
Logic would dictate that ‘Paul’ as a nickname is not of interest to the Home Office.
In the UK so many names are shortened and used by friends instead of the given name, yet on official documents people would always use their proper full name. So long as you have. NOT used your nickname on official documents Tax, NI, DVLA etc. for Bank Accounts or utility accounts /bills etc. then I see no reason to put it on your application and if you did I think it would only confuse matters.
As an example just think how many Samantha’s are known as Sam, John’s known as Jack, Francis’s known as Frank or Dorothy’s known as Dot!
Just my thought’s.
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:12 pm
by cs007
Ffmuni wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:58 am
Logic would dictate that ‘Paul’ as a nickname is not of interest to the Home Office.
In the UK so many names are shortened and used by friends instead of the given name, yet on official documents people would always use their proper full name. So long as you have. NOT used your nickname on official documents Tax, NI, DVLA etc. for Bank Accounts or utility accounts /bills etc. then I see no reason to put it on your application and if you did I think it would only confuse matters.
As an example just think how many Samantha’s are known as Sam, John’s known as Jack, Francis’s known as Frank or Dorothy’s known as Dot!
Just my thought’s.
Thanks for your reply. Actually I was looking at the online form a few days back and it has the same question about other names but there is an explanation note saying other names include maiden names and professional names etc. So at work people know me as Paul and I sign my emails as Paul but HR has me down in my passport name on their records. In this case shall I disclose Paul as a nick name because I use it at work? Been thinking about it for a few days since I saw the online form. All my official documents are in my passport name though. Any moderators or gurus have anything to add as well? Thanks!
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:46 am
by CR001
cs007 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:12 pm
Ffmuni wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:58 am
Logic would dictate that ‘Paul’ as a nickname is not of interest to the Home Office.
In the UK so many names are shortened and used by friends instead of the given name, yet on official documents people would always use their proper full name. So long as you have. NOT used your nickname on official documents Tax, NI, DVLA etc. for Bank Accounts or utility accounts /bills etc. then I see no reason to put it on your application and if you did I think it would only confuse matters.
As an example just think how many Samantha’s are known as Sam, John’s known as Jack, Francis’s known as Frank or Dorothy’s known as Dot!
Just my thought’s.
Thanks for your reply. Actually I was looking at the online form a few days back and it has the same question about other names but there is an explanation note saying other names include maiden names and professional names etc. So at work people know me as Paul and I sign my emails as Paul but HR has me down in my passport name on their records. In this case shall I disclose Paul as a nick name because I use it at work? Been thinking about it for a few days since I saw the online form. All my official documents are in my passport name though. Any moderators or gurus have anything to add as well? Thanks!
No, 'Paul' is not a 'professsional name' in the sense you think. Your nickname is irrelevant to this application.
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:20 pm
by cs007
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:46 am
cs007 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:12 pm
Ffmuni wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:58 am
Logic would dictate that ‘Paul’ as a nickname is not of interest to the Home Office.
In the UK so many names are shortened and used by friends instead of the given name, yet on official documents people would always use their proper full name. So long as you have. NOT used your nickname on official documents Tax, NI, DVLA etc. for Bank Accounts or utility accounts /bills etc. then I see no reason to put it on your application and if you did I think it would only confuse matters.
As an example just think how many Samantha’s are known as Sam, John’s known as Jack, Francis’s known as Frank or Dorothy’s known as Dot!
Just my thought’s.
Thanks for your reply. Actually I was looking at the online form a few days back and it has the same question about other names but there is an explanation note saying other names include maiden names and professional names etc. So at work people know me as Paul and I sign my emails as Paul but HR has me down in my passport name on their records. In this case shall I disclose Paul as a nick name because I use it at work? Been thinking about it for a few days since I saw the online form. All my official documents are in my passport name though. Any moderators or gurus have anything to add as well? Thanks!
No, 'Paul' is not a 'professsional name' in the sense you think. Your nickname is irrelevant to this application.
Thanks for the clarification CR001. If you don't mind me asking what does HO mean by professional name here?
Re: British citizen application - future intentions question
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:08 pm
by srivisaN
srivisaN wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:26 am
does the same rule applies to section 6(1) 300 days, section 6 (2) 480 days, will they disregard 310 or 490 days respectively.
CROO1, can you please comment on this..
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:18 pm
by cs007
cs007 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:20 pm
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:46 am
cs007 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:12 pm
Ffmuni wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:58 am
Logic would dictate that ‘Paul’ as a nickname is not of interest to the Home Office.
In the UK so many names are shortened and used by friends instead of the given name, yet on official documents people would always use their proper full name. So long as you have. NOT used your nickname on official documents Tax, NI, DVLA etc. for Bank Accounts or utility accounts /bills etc. then I see no reason to put it on your application and if you did I think it would only confuse matters.
As an example just think how many Samantha’s are known as Sam, John’s known as Jack, Francis’s known as Frank or Dorothy’s known as Dot!
Just my thought’s.
Thanks for your reply. Actually I was looking at the online form a few days back and it has the same question about other names but there is an explanation note saying other names include maiden names and professional names etc. So at work people know me as Paul and I sign my emails as Paul but HR has me down in my passport name on their records. In this case shall I disclose Paul as a nick name because I use it at work? Been thinking about it for a few days since I saw the online form. All my official documents are in my passport name though. Any moderators or gurus have anything to add as well? Thanks!
No, 'Paul' is not a 'professsional name' in the sense you think. Your nickname is irrelevant to this application.
Thanks for the clarification CR001. If you don't mind me asking what does HO mean by professional name here?
Anyone can comment?
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:10 pm
by CR001
I can't comment but it is definitely not a 'nickname', perhaps something more formal like Lord XYX of Kent or similar.
My nickname is Char and my daughter also has a shortened nickname of her name. We never indicated these on our forms at all as they are irrelevant and don't appear on any of our paperwork.
Re: Form AN Name Confusion - Question 1.8
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:39 pm
by cs007
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:10 pm
I can't comment but it is definitely not a 'nickname', perhaps something more formal like Lord XYX of Kent or similar.
My nickname is Char and my daughter also has a shortened nickname of her name. We never indicated these on our forms at all as they are irrelevant and don't appear on any of our paperwork.
Thanks Char - you are a star!!