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naturalisation for non EEA holding permanent residence

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:23 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
I have been Granted with permanent residence under EEA law, as I was married for 5 years to an EEA national,...
So my question is do I still rely on the EEA national (my spouse) in order to keep my permanent residence? or it just relies on my own person since i was granted with the permanent residence,?????

another question is:
when I get to apply for the naturalisation, will I need to provide any sort of information reelevant to if I am still married to the EEA national,or if we are still together; or that wont matter anymore??

thanks for your help

Re: naturalisation for non EEA holding permanent residence

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:35 pm
by conote80
It's all about you now. You don't rely on anyone else for anything now. One year after PR, you can apply for naturalisation with your docs, and no other docs from your ex.

Re: naturalisation for non EEA holding permanent residence

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:05 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
conote80 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:35 pm
It's all about you now. You don't rely on anyone else for anything now. One year after PR, you can apply for naturalisation with your docs, and no other docs from your ex.
amazing... thanks for your help :)

Naturalisation For non EEA holding (PR)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:36 am
by carlosandres-coral44
Hey guys

my question is:
After holding permanent residence for 1 year:
what documents do I need to provide?
is it for 6 Years in total, 5 years before permanent residence and then 1 year from permanent residence?
what sort of documents do I need to provide? how many per year?
how long does it take to get the naturalisation
and any advice that can matter in this case...
thanks a lot

Re: Naturalisation For non EEA holding (PR)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:41 pm
by conote80
I believe the same set of docs used when went for your PR - the docs that pertains to you.
Add the one year docs after the PR too
The 6 years HMRC docs
If you've been in the UK for more than that 6 yrs, then docs that proofs legal residence before your marriage. If you were not legally resident before your marriage, then I'm afraid there may be hiccup as they look for 10 years of lawful residence(Good character) - that's provided you have been resident that long.

Re: Naturalisation For non EEA holding (PR)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:11 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
conote80 wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:41 pm
I believe the same set of docs used when went for your PR - the docs that pertains to you.
Add the one year docs after the PR too
The 6 years HMRC docs
If you've been in the UK for more than that 6 yrs, then docs that proofs legal residence before your marriage. If you were not legally resident before your marriage, then I'm afraid there may be hiccup as they look for 10 years of lawful residence(Good character) - that's provided you have been resident that long.
I have never been ilegal in the UK, came as a student and then got married, but not even 1 day have been ilegal,...
-Arrive as a student september 2012
-Got married to an EEA national march 2013
-And got permanent residence march 2018

so certainly I qualify for naturalisation in march 2019

so I guess documents covering all the 5 years from 2013-2018
plus documents covering the one year under permanent residence from march 2018 to march 2019

Re: Naturalisation For non EEA holding (PR)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:13 pm
by conote80
Yep. If you can get docs from that Sept 2012 too, hopefully, you would be fine

documents required for naturalisation

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:45 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
hey everyone
I would like to know what are the documents required for naturalisation
im a non eea, holding permanent residence,
and i would like to know what are the MUST documents required to have a succesful application
i have never been ilegal here
lived legally 5 years as a family member;
and now 1 year on permanent residence

so a part from the life in the uk test
and the english lenguage requirement
what other documents are a must for having a succesful application ?

thanks for your help and support
all the best

Re: documents required for naturalisation

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:50 pm
by CR001
Please keep all your questions in ONE topic (this one). Topics Merged.

Re: documents required for naturalisation

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:32 pm
by bear
you need only last 5 years resident including 1 year after permanent . from march 2014 to march 2019 also can you read AN guide will tell you 5 years .you can prove them easily (p60s or employer letters or tax history ...... look on AN guide for more aletnative proofs).

Re: documents required for naturalisation

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:48 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
bear wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:32 pm
you need only last 5 years resident including 1 year after permanent . from march 2014 to march 2019 also can you read AN guide will tell you 5 years .you can prove them easily (p60s or employer letters or tax history ...... look on AN guide for more aletnative proofs).
thanks :)

WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:09 am
by carlosandres-coral44
Hey Guys
planing to apply for naturalisation soon,
so im wondering what is the residence requirement that concerns to my case, as I am a non-eea, but holding permanent residence, my knowledge is:

5 years of legal and continuous residence (which i got) from 2013-2018
1 year of holding permanent residence (about to be completed) from 2018-2019

I am just wondering if I am right?

have never been ilegal in this country and I meet all the requirements.

thanks

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:21 am
by rogerr
carlosandres-coral44 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:09 am
Hey Guys
planing to apply for naturalisation soon,
so im wondering what is the residence requirement that concerns to my case, as I am a non-eea, but holding permanent residence, my knowledge is:

5 years of legal and continuous residence (which i got) from 2013-2018
1 year of holding permanent residence (about to be completed) from 2018-2019

I am just wondering if I am right?

have never been ilegal in this country and I meet all the requirements.

thanks

can give us all your immigration history since you entered to the uk ?

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:20 am
by carlosandres-coral44
ok im gonna write a timeline:

Entered 21 of september 2012 as a student
Got married 17 of march 2013 to an EEA national ( since then 5 years as a family member)
Adquired permanent residence 17 of march 2018

Re: documents required for naturalisation

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:44 am
by CR001
CR001 wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:50 pm
Please keep all your questions in ONE topic (this one). Topics Merged.

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:10 pm
by rogerr
carlosandres-coral44 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:20 am
ok im gonna write a timeline:

Entered 21 of september 2012 as a student
Got married 17 of march 2013 to an EEA national ( since then 5 years as a family member)
Adquired permanent residence 17 of march 2018
your qualifing period for naturalisation 5 year start from 17 march 2014 to 17 march 2019.

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:26 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
rogerr wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:10 pm
carlosandres-coral44 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:20 am
ok im gonna write a timeline:

Entered 21 of september 2012 as a student
Got married 17 of march 2013 to an EEA national ( since then 5 years as a family member)
Adquired permanent residence 17 of march 2018
your qualifing period for naturalisation 5 year start from 17 march 2014 to 17 march 2019.


So what is that thing about the one year of holding permanent residence,?
cause what i was told and informed is that you need 5 years of legal residence, and then 1 year of holding permanent residence which means 6 years in total?
bit confused now... lol
my 5 years of legal residence would be from marriage march 2013 to march 2018(as a family member); and then one year of holding permanent residence march 2018 to march 2019, then ready for naturalisation, well the only fact is that march 2019 either way i will be ready for naturalisation.. lol...
but dont wanna mess up with the documents ill have to send for the qualifying period.

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:44 pm
by rogerr
read AN guide . 5year including 1 year holding PR.

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:53 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
rogerr wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:44 pm
read AN guide . 5year including 1 year holding PR.
okay
thank you :wink:

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:25 pm
by secret.simon
You're looking at the requirements the wrong way round.

The requirements count backwards from the date of application for naturalisation.

You need
a) to have held settled status (ILR/PR) in the UK for at least one year preceding the date of application.
b) to meet the respective absence requirements over one and five years preceding the date of application
c) to have physically been in the UK at the start of the five years preceding the date of application
d) to not have breached immigration laws for 10 years preceding the date of application

FROM WHEN START COUNTING THE PERMANENT RESIDENCE PERIOD

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:23 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
HEY GUYS

I have a question:

from when start counting then permanent residence period (the holding of this status) to be more specific, since the moment the Biometric card is issued ?? or since the Date that is shown in the letter received from homme office when it was granted????

thanks

Re: FROM WHEN START COUNTING THE PERMANENT RESIDENCE PERIOD

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:32 pm
by secret.simon
From the date stated in the letter accompanying the card.

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:30 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
I really wonder since when the permanent residence period start counting?
does it start counting since the issue date of the biometric card? or does it start counting from the date that is written in the letter received from the Home office?
is so confusing??????

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:06 pm
by carlosandres-coral44
secret.simon wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:25 pm
You're looking at the requirements the wrong way round.

The requirements count backwards from the date of application for naturalisation.

You need
a) to have held settled status (ILR/PR) in the UK for at least one year preceding the date of application.
b) to meet the respective absence requirements over one and five years preceding the date of application
c) to have physically been in the UK at the start of the five years preceding the date of application
d) to not have breached immigration laws for 10 years preceding the date of application
when they say that you must have held settled status (ILR/PR) in the UK for at least one year preceding the date of application.,---- this the most confusing part for me, do they mean the date written in the Biometric card(issue date) or the Date Home office Granted you with the (ILR/PR)?????
cause you know they write a Date in the letter where they say since when your permanent status is confirmed, and something different is the issue date of the Biometric Card?
so which is the one that applies?

and that is literally driving me crazy?
does anyone know??

Re: WHAT IS THE EXACT QUALIFYING PERIOD (Residence requirement)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:12 pm
by CR001
As has already been stated, it is the date of PR in the LETTER for EU citizens and their family on the EEA route.

ILR is issued under the UK immigration rules and not relevant to your circumstances.