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Naturalisation query
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:42 pm
by bookerw100
Hi
There is a question int he online application forms:
Non-applying dependants
Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time
Is one's spouse who is a non EU national on a UK spouse visa count as dependent?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:47 pm
by Casa
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:42 pm
Hi
There is a question int he online application forms:
Non-applying dependants
Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time
Is one's spouse who is a non EU national on a UK spouse visa count as dependent?
Yes
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:42 am
by bookerw100
even if the spouse is over 21, they are still classified as dependent?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 am
by bookerw100
Hi couple of questions please
What is the tax office reference number - is it the PAYE reference on the p60?
Also in the employment questions, shall I also mention about the work I did when I was a student years ago? or just the Tier 2 employment
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:46 am
by CR001
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 am
Hi couple of questions please
What is the tax office reference number - is it the PAYE reference on the p60?
Also in the employment questions, shall I also mention about the work I did when I was a student years ago? or just the Tier 2 employment
Yes re tax ref number.
You must state ALL employment as the form asks for the last 10 years.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 am
by bookerw100
thanks for the response
With regards to the employment - this seems like a tough task - i worked at various places for short durations during whilst I was an undergrad for 4 years. What if I don't remember the precises details?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:01 pm
by CR001
Maybe ask HMRC for your employment history.
Or answer as accurately as you remember as HO do check.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:27 pm
by bookerw100
ok thanks.
Also when it asks when was the first time you entered the UK - shall I give the date when I first came as a student or when the route under which I got ILR start date?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:36 pm
by CR001
Does the question say 'first entered' or 'date entered you based ILR on'??
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 pm
by bookerw100
The question says first enter. However the reason I asked is because I entered as a student and not using that as basis of citizenship. I am using my "5year ILR plus 1 year" route for citizenship.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:49 pm
by CR001
You missed my 'tongue in cheek sarcasm'. If the form says First Entered, that is what you put down. If the question does not say 'first entered that you are basing your application on', the no it is not your tier 2 entry date.
It is not asking you what you are basing your application on like the ILR forms do.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:00 pm
by bookerw100
haha fair enough. Maybe once I get my British nationality I will understand sarcasm better
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:36 am
by bookerw100
Casa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:47 pm
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:42 pm
Hi
There is a question int he online application forms:
Non-applying dependants
Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time
Is one's spouse who is a non EU national on a UK spouse visa count as dependent?
Yes
Hi are you sure about this? I would have thought the spouse is not a dependent?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:56 am
by CR001
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:36 am
Casa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:47 pm
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:42 pm
Hi
There is a question int he online application forms:
Non-applying dependants
Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time
Is one's spouse who is a non EU national on a UK spouse visa count as dependent?
Yes
Hi are you sure about this? I would have thought the spouse is not a dependent?
For immigration purposes, your spouse is a dependent as they hold a visa dependent on you!!
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:11 am
by Lulona
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 pm
The question says first enter. However the reason I asked is because I entered as a student and not using that as basis of citizenship. I am using my "5year ILR plus 1 year" route for citizenship.
According to guide AN (page 7), when filling in the application the date when the applicant enters the UK with the view of staying in the UK on a long-term basis should be provided. When you enter the UK as a student you do not intend to remain long-term therefore you should provide the date when you entered the UK after your studies. I am in a similar situation. I was in the UK in 2008-9 for studies, and then went back to my home country and reentered on a post study visa in 2011. When I was applying for a permanent residence as a family member of an EEA national I put the 2011 date as a date when I first entered the UK. I did include a cover letter explaining that I was in the UK on a student visa before but that I did not enter this date as this is not when I intended to stay in the UK long term. I did get the permanent residency. I am submitting an application for naturalisation atm and I am providing a similar cover letter explaining why I am giving the 2011 date as a date when I first entered the Uk and citing the guide AN p. 7.
Good luck with your application.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:28 am
by bookerw100
Lulona wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:11 am
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 pm
The question says first enter. However the reason I asked is because I entered as a student and not using that as basis of citizenship. I am using my "5year ILR plus 1 year" route for citizenship.
According to guide AN (page 7), when filling in the application the date when the applicant enters the UK with the view of staying in the UK on a long-term basis should be provided. When you enter the UK as a student you do not intend to remain long-term therefore you should provide the date when you entered the UK after your studies. I am in a similar situation. I was in the UK in 2008-9 for studies, and then went back to my home country and reentered on a post study visa in 2011. When I was applying for a permanent residence as a family member of an EEA national I put the 2011 date as a date when I first entered the UK. I did include a cover letter explaining that I was in the UK on a student visa before but that I did not enter this date as this is not when I intended to stay in the UK long term. I did get the permanent residency. I am submitting an application for naturalisation atm and I am providing a similar cover letter explaining why I am giving the 2011 date as a date when I first entered the Uk and citing the guide AN p. 7.
Good luck with your application.
I just checked page 7 on the guide again and it does state the date when the applicant enters the UK with the view of staying in the UK on a long-term basis should be provided.
However, my case is slightly different to yours. I did not leave the UK at all after uni. Went from student to Tier 2 inside the UK.
I don't think it will harm, in my case alteast, to mention that I entered back in 2008.
good luck to you too.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:01 pm
by bookerw100
HI I would like to confirm something.
I recently got a parking charge notice. I don't think I need to mention it anywhere in the online application but just wanted to confirm if I am right?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:48 pm
by bookerw100
Hi
In the new online system, one just has to give their referee details as requested in the online form.
Do you also need to get physical letters from you referees which is signed by them?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:49 pm
by CR001
bookerw100 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:48 pm
Do you also need to get physical letters from you referees which is signed by them?
No additonal letter. They sign the referee form you complete and print off.
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:20 pm
by bookerw100
thanks.
For non-EU applicants, I understand one has to upload pages of passport showing stamps. Does one also have to scan the empty pages in the rest of the passport?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:40 am
by bookerw100
Hi I have my appt (nonEU) next week. I have uploaded the following documents in these categories:
"Proof of Apllication" : Current and previous passports with stamps
"Residence in the UK" : ILR BRP
"Other": Life in the UK, UK degree and 2 referee forms.
Is the above okay?
Re: Naturalisation query
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:59 pm
by bookerw100
Any response appreciated as appointment is close.