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Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
by Abbs
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:44 am
by CMOSUK
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
Hello,

From experience, a doctors exemption/report will not be enough, you may need a social work(mental health) report and possibly an occupational therapists report to give to the H.O, also your wifes psychiatric doctor would be involved with the social work to compile the report needed, this is normally not done through your GP doctor.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am
by CR001
Presumably she passed the English tests for initial spouse visa, extension visa and B1 English and LIUK for ILR???

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:14 pm
by Abbs
CR001 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 am
Presumably she passed the English tests for initial spouse visa, extension visa and B1 English and LIUK for ILR???
Hi,

No she never did the English test, she got the ILR under the family reunion rule in 2003.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:21 pm
by Abbs
CMOSUK wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:44 am
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
Hello,

From experience, a doctors exemption/report will not be enough, you may need a social work(mental health) report and possibly an occupational therapists report to give to the H.O, also your wifes psychiatric doctor would be involved with the social work to compile the report needed, this is normally not done through your GP doctor.
Hi,

Thank you for your reply, we will try to get more detailed reports from her GP and psychiatric doctor but at this stage do you think there is any chance that H.O to reconsider the exemption?

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:37 pm
by salsabeel
Abbs wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:21 pm
CMOSUK wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:44 am
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
Hello,

From experience, a doctors exemption/report will not be enough, you may need a social work(mental health) report and possibly an occupational therapists report to give to the H.O, also your wifes psychiatric doctor would be involved with the social work to compile the report needed, this is normally not done through your GP doctor.
Hi,

Thank you for your reply, we will try to get more detailed reports from her GP and psychiatric doctor but at this stage do you think there is any chance that H.O to reconsider the exemption?
Hi,
They did not refuse application yet soThey will consider it, if u provide them fully requested informations.They just asking further medical documents/information,so u need to provide them by given date.Already u got advise from above posters,so send them all
(as supported doc) also just include if ur wife is receiving
any DLA (now calls pip) or ESA awarded letters too,as these are awarded those who fullfill disability requirements.
(NOTE) please pay attention on requested doc first what they need to see and ur further supported doc are covering them??

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:37 am
by CMOSUK
Again I wil advise, get a social work report, this will usually be compiled by a mental health team including the physciatric doctor/consultant.

Again, it is something most government departments that are concerned would ask for as it would show them from that report how their mental health affects their daily living.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:05 pm
by tpveen
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
I think GP history is good enough because they asked on application a further exemption forms sign with GP or other specialists. I am aslo on same stage where they asking further evidence which i received , so i think GP can provide history, where an applicant has been attached in past to departments relare to health , this i think doesn't mean GP cant do nothing as he holds all records. please if you still think some thing is more good lets share.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:56 am
by tpveen
this was not very difficult for exempt but home office always request for more evidence as the part of medical proof as i have seen on different cases, this doesn't mean that two months history telling a big history, as it is said over the this conversation that since she is sick,,, history means that she is long term ill that on medication that couldn't do relate to uk test or english etc. they are not asking consultant or psychologist reports, GP do have power but he she can only say what they have in their computers , not a new created psychiatrist or social worker will create a history in short time, this is showing just a few weeks ago that she is sick while preparing for naturalization file and tried to make effort with NHS record. I still can say that GP is enough but will depend on history for long term types not like two month which will give that sign, that can be said it is start where a diagnosis process in this two month will be seen by departments, where NHS appointments take 2 to 6 month for different periods ,, assessments periods take long long time,, so i will say history is short but your new evidence can still support this. doesn't mean this is rejected, home office ask further history and its normal. please let us know about ur file. thank you

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:33 am
by CMOSUK
tpveen wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:14 pm
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
i think GP history is good enough because they asked on application a further exemption forms sign with GP or other specialists. I am aslo on same stage where they asking further evidence which i received , so i think GP can provide history, where an applicant has been attached in past to departments relare to health , this i think doesn't mean GP cant do nothing as he holds all records. please if you still think some thing is more good lets share
It seems the OP did use their GP and the Home Office still rejected it, in my earlier post I did state that a GP is NOT enough, to the OP, you may have to get social work from the mental health team involved and for them to refer an occupational therapist report as well as a social work background report.

I state the above as this will determine the extent from a professional point of view on how your partners illness affects their daily living, from simple things such as basic cooking to shopping and going out and about. It will also come to the point that you can raise to them in regards to their capacity to understand and logic.

Again, most governmental departments such as assessors for benefits or even paid for carers or nursing homes require this report as it gives them a report on what core abilities have been affected by their mental health and arrange support and care accordingly.

This has been my experience. Again a GP will be Informed and be upto date with all this but they aren't the ones dealing with this as when it comes to mental health unfortunately, even GP's are sometimes failing, I say this with respect to GP's and I'm not brushing all GP's in the same brush.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:40 am
by CMOSUK
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:56 am
this was not very difficult for exempt but home office always request for more evidence as the part of medical proof as i have seen on different cases, this doesn't mean that two months history telling a big history, as it is said over the this conversation that since she is sick,,, history means that she is long term ill that on medication that couldn't do relate to uk test or english etc. they are not asking consultant or psychologist reports, GP do have power but he she can only say what they have in their computers , not a new created psychiatrist or social worker will create a history in short time, this is showing just a few weeks ago that she is sick while preparing for naturalization file and tried to make effort with NHS record. I still can say that GP is enough but will depend on history for long term types not like two month which will give that sign, that can be said it is start where a diagnosis process in this two month will be seen by departments, where NHS appointments take 2 to 6 month for different periods ,, assessments periods take long long time,, so i will say history is short but your new evidence can still support this. doesn't mean this is rejected, home office ask further history and its normal. please let us know about ur file. thank you
I'am not disagreeing with you, you make valid points, but in order for the HO to understand how her mental health affects her ability to the English language requirement tests, a report on her by social work and other consultants would determine how this will affect her in the long term and specifically if to answer HO questions whether she is fit and capable of taking this test or not.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:56 pm
by tpveen
CMOSUK wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:33 am
tpveen wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:14 pm
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
i think GP history is good enough because they asked on application a further exemption forms sign with GP or other specialists. I am aslo on same stage where they asking further evidence which i received , so i think GP can provide history, where an applicant has been attached in past to departments relare to health , this i think doesn't mean GP cant do nothing as he holds all records. please if you still think some thing is more good lets share
It seems the OP did use their GP and the Home Office still rejected it, in my earlier post I did state that a GP is NOT enough, to the OP, you may have to get social work from the mental health team involved and for them to refer an occupational therapist report as well as a social work background report.

I state the above as this will determine the extent from a professional point of view on how your partners illness affects their daily living, from simple things such as basic cooking to shopping and going out and about. It will also come to the point that you can raise to them in regards to their capacity to understand and logic.

Again, most governmental departments such as assessors for benefits or even paid for carers or nursing homes require this report as it gives them a report on what core abilities have been affected by their mental health and arrange support and care accordingly.

This has been my experience. Again a GP will be Informed and be upto date with all this but they aren't the ones dealing with this as when it comes to mental health unfortunately, even GP's are sometimes failing, I say this with respect to GP's and I'm not brushing all GP's in the same brush.
your answer is also positive, as u know that appointments are very late while home office asks for further evidence,only Gp is nearest and possibly option, if some one is waiting for consultant or from IAPT how he she will to mange, where with social worker was not involved or,, do u believe PIP score letter or olfd thrpies with NHS can count for further evidence with their few months old reports?

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:30 pm
by tpveen
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
please confirm how did you go with this matter? did u find some sort of help from nhs gp or related department? how you feeling while waiting for final decision? thanks

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:18 am
by tpveen
tpveen wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:56 pm
CMOSUK wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:33 am
tpveen wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:14 pm
Abbs wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Hi there,

My wife applied for Naturalisation as British citizen about 2 months ago and since she suffers from long term depression, anxiety and memory difficulties, she requested home office to exempt her from the life in the UK and the English tests. We had the exemption form filled out by the GP and it was sent to Home Office with other supporting documents. She is under treatment for a quite long time and she has also been seen by specialist a few times, all the questions in the exemption form were answered by her doctor and it was mentioned that she will not get any better in future, however we received a letter from home office saying that they are nor prepared to exempt her from the requirement and they have given 3 weeks to provide them documentary evidence that meet the requirement (english and life in the UK test).

Can anyone help please? :cry:
i think GP history is good enough because they asked on application a further exemption forms sign with GP or other specialists. I am aslo on same stage where they asking further evidence which i received , so i think GP can provide history, where an applicant has been attached in past to departments relare to health , this i think doesn't mean GP cant do nothing as he holds all records. please if you still think some thing is more good lets share
It seems the OP did use their GP and the Home Office still rejected it, in my earlier post I did state that a GP is NOT enough, to the OP, you may have to get social work from the mental health team involved and for them to refer an occupational therapist report as well as a social work background report.

I state the above as this will determine the extent from a professional point of view on how your partners illness affects their daily living, from simple things such as basic cooking to shopping and going out and about. It will also come to the point that you can raise to them in regards to their capacity to understand and logic.

Again, most governmental departments such as assessors for benefits or even paid for carers or nursing homes require this report as it gives them a report on what core abilities have been affected by their mental health and arrange support and care accordingly.

This has been my experience. Again a GP will be Informed and be upto date with all this but they aren't the ones dealing with this as when it comes to mental health unfortunately, even GP's are sometimes failing, I say this with respect to GP's and I'm not brushing all GP's in the same brush.
your answer is also positive, as u know that appointments are very late while home office asks for further evidence,only Gp is nearest and possibly option, if some one is waiting for consultant or from IAPT how he she will to mange, where with social worker was not involved or,, do u believe PIP score letter or olfd thrpies with NHS can count for further evidence with their few months old reports?
only send them what they have asked for, for example ur first form was signed through GP so GP's again to provide with again for further evidence would be better again, but if u would have sent them in start of application with consultant signature then this time u will have to send them again with consultant, this time what H O asked you, u can only send them other wise they will not consider other types of evidence which will not be accepted, I must say write here back that this can be helpful foe other but also stay cool because its normal that home office asks further evidence after you send the file and they accept it at the end if they find that applicant is sick for long time.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:25 am
by tpveen
CMOSUK wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:40 am
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:56 am
this was not very difficult for exempt but home office always request for more evidence as the part of medical proof as i have seen on different cases, this doesn't mean that two months history telling a big history, as it is said over the this conversation that since she is sick,,, history means that she is long term ill that on medication that couldn't do relate to uk test or english etc. they are not asking consultant or psychologist reports, GP do have power but he she can only say what they have in their computers , not a new created psychiatrist or social worker will create a history in short time, this is showing just a few weeks ago that she is sick while preparing for naturalization file and tried to make effort with NHS record. I still can say that GP is enough but will depend on history for long term types not like two month which will give that sign, that can be said it is start where a diagnosis process in this two month will be seen by departments, where NHS appointments take 2 to 6 month for different periods ,, assessments periods take long long time,, so i will say history is short but your new evidence can still support this. doesn't mean this is rejected, home office ask further history and its normal. please let us know about ur file. thank you
I'am not disagreeing with you, you make valid points, but in order for the HO to understand how her mental health affects her ability to the English language requirement tests, a report on her by social work and other consultants would determine how this will affect her in the long term and specifically if to answer HO questions whether she is fit and capable of taking this test or not.

only send them what they have asked for, for example ur first form was signed through GP so GP's again to provide with again for further evidence would be better again, but if u would have sent them in start of application with consultant signature then this time u will have to send them again with consultant, this time what H O asked you, u can only send them other wise they will not consider other types of evidence which will not be accepted, I must say write here back that this can be helpful foe other but also stay cool because its normal that home office asks further evidence after you send the file and they accept it at the end if they find that applicant is sick for long time.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:24 pm
by tpveen
I have seen that for many days nothing has been updated here for exception. I think people are in stress due to not having sufficient proof of health related cases and even solicitor are not very sure that what will be accepted by case worker of nationally and exempt of life in uk test. I think Gp alone letter will not be enough but if u have been registered with other NHS departments and gp letter explaining how ur health making u unfit with uk nationality tests and u were related to different departments or u r in list of mantle psychiatric or iapt or social worker or may be other who giving u therapy or gave ur therapy on past so this can be a mantle case issues. please assure that ur if gp writes from his her own treatment where other departments are not involved in his her letter than this can be issue from HO. please reply to my post or update ur experience. thank u.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:26 pm
by tpveen
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:24 pm
I have seen that for many days nothing has been updated here for exception. I think people are in stress due to not having sufficient proof of health related cases and even solicitor are not very sure that what will be accepted by case worker of nationally and exempt of life in uk test. I think Gp alone letter will not be enough but if u have been registered with other NHS departments and gp letter explaining how ur health making u unfit with uk nationality tests and u were related to different departments or u r in list of mantle psychiatric or iapt or social worker or may be other who giving u therapy or gave ur therapy on past so this can be a mantle case issues. so this can be accepted through GP'S Letter, please make assure that ur if gp writes from his her own treatment where other departments are not involved in his her letter than this can be issue from HO. please reply to my post or update ur experience. thank u.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:27 pm
by tpveen
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:26 pm
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:24 pm
I have seen that for many days nothing has been updated here for exception. I think people are in stress due to not having sufficient proof of health related cases and even solicitor are not very sure that what will be accepted by case worker of nationally and exempt of life in uk test. I think Gp alone letter will not be enough but if u have been registered with other NHS departments and gp letter explaining how ur health making u unfit with uk nationality tests and u were related to different departments or u r in list of mantle psychiatric or iapt or social worker or may be other who giving u therapy or gave ur therapy on past so this can be a mantle case issues. so this can be accepted through GP'S Letter, please make assure that ur if gp writes from his her own treatment where other departments are not involved in his her letter than this can be issue from HO. please reply to my post or update ur experience. thank u.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:45 pm
by Casa
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:27 pm
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:26 pm
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:24 pm
I have seen that for many days nothing has been updated here for exception. I think people are in stress due to not having sufficient proof of health related cases and even solicitor are not very sure that what will be accepted by case worker of nationally and exempt of life in uk test. I think Gp alone letter will not be enough but if u have been registered with other NHS departments and gp letter explaining how ur health making u unfit with uk nationality tests and u were related to different departments or u r in list of mantle psychiatric or iapt or social worker or may be other who giving u therapy or gave ur therapy on past so this can be a mantle case issues. so this can be accepted through GP'S Letter, please make assure that ur if gp writes from his her own treatment where other departments are not involved in his her letter than this can be issue from HO. please reply to my post or update ur experience. thank u.
Please desist from constantly repeating the same post. :!:

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:19 pm
by tpveen
I send to all of u for info exchange to each other if some dont like can block. i only like life in uk test exception info exchange.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:25 am
by Casa
tpveen wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:19 pm
I send to all of u for info exchange to each other if some dont like can block. i only like life in uk test exception info exchange.
It makes no sense to repeat the same post several times within minutes, as you have been doing. Members will respond when they are ready.

And by the way, members are only able to block your private messages, not your posts on the open form. :idea:

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:00 am
by tpveen
yes casa very accurate reply by u, this is not for advice this is only for show off immigration information through brain, exemption of life in uk test through health always need a strong requirements, I therefore ask you to seek legal advice from any consultant who charges bigger fee amount. :)

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:40 am
by CR001
tpveen wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:00 am
yes casa very accurate reply by u, this is not for advice this is only for show off immigration information through brain, exemption of life in uk test through health always need a strong requirements, I therefore ask you to seek legal advice from any consultant who charges bigger fee amount. :)
If you are going to persist in spamming the forum repetitively and disrespecting a moderator, your access to the forum will be terminated.

Re: Exemption from the Life in the UK & English test rejected

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:56 am
by CR001
Apologies to the original poster, this topic will be locked due to the spamming of another member in this thread.