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Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:54 pm
by kc90
Hi everyone,

This question isn't for my citizenship application, but for one of my relatives' application for a British passport. I hope that is okay for me to do so. Please accept my apologies if this is not allowed here.

Basically, my relative was born in the UK before 1983 (1968 to be precise) and only recently found out that by birth, at the time she was born, she was automatically British - her parents did not know that this was a possibility, and chose to apply for an Indian passport. Currently, she is still an Indian citizen with an Indian passport. She is now in the process of applying for her British passport, but there are a few issues that are keeping her from proceeding.

1) She has her UK birth certificate, so there is no problem here.

2) She is required to submit the passport of both her parents that covered the time of her birth. She only has her mom's passport, but couldn't find her dad's passport. She does have a work certificate from her dad's employer that states that he was here during the period surrounding her birth. Is that sufficient?

3) She doesn't have either of her parents' birth certificates. She is trying to see if they can get them reissued with the local government offices in India. However, she has the school certificates of both parents showing their dates of birth - she is not sure if this is a suitable alternative.

4) One of the major sticking points is the question: why has she waited just over 50 years to apply for her British passport? Can it simply be that she was not aware that she was unaware that she was British by birth? Any advice here will be really appreciated.

5) She is not sure how to answer the following question(s): does she plan to live (and work) in the UK? She is settled in India, and is working as an English (as a second language) teacher. If she says that she is not planning to come to the UK, will it be an issue for the passport application?

I would like to thank you all in advance for any advice you can give us :-)

Re: Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:06 am
by sunburn
She does not require her parents' passports or birth certificates in order to get a first British passport. Those parental details are not relevant since she gained British citizenship by birth. She just needs to prove her own identity, i.e. her GRO birth certificate, marriage and associated name change, and current valid ID (PAN/Aadhaar/passport). There is no problem with stating that she doesn't plan to live in UK. She's not required to.

The same situation as hers applied to my mother, who is UK born and had no clue she was British until she was in her 50s too, and I am a UK citizen through her.

The biggest problem here is how are you planning to handle her Indian residency once she has a British passport in hand while residing in India ? The moment she applies for and gets her British passport, she loses Indian citizenship.

Re: Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:23 am
by vinny
Alternatively, apply for a CoE-RoA.

Re: Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:05 pm
by bookerw100
sunburn wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:06 am
She does not require her parents' passports or birth certificates in order to get a first British passport. Those parental details are not relevant since she gained British citizenship by birth. She just needs to prove her own identity, i.e. her GRO birth certificate, marriage and associated name change, and current valid ID (PAN/Aadhaar/passport). There is no problem with stating that she doesn't plan to live in UK. She's not required to.

The same situation as hers applied to my mother, who is UK born and had no clue she was British until she was in her 50s too, and I am a UK citizen through her.

The biggest problem here is how are you planning to handle her Indian residency once she has a British passport in hand while residing in India ? The moment she applies for and gets her British passport, she loses Indian citizenship. One gets 3 months grace to renounce Indian nationality from date of registration as British national.

Re: Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:30 pm
by sunburn
bookerw100 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:05 pm
[/u] One gets 3 months grace to renounce Indian nationality from date of registration as British national.
Thanks. Could you also please quote any Govt of India / MEA website on this for reference ?

Re: Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:42 pm
by bookerw100
sunburn wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:30 pm
bookerw100 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:05 pm
[/u] One gets 3 months grace to renounce Indian nationality from date of registration as British national.
Thanks. Could you also please quote any Govt of India / MEA website on this for reference ?
Here you go all the info you need on renouncing Indian nationality.
https://www.vfsglobal.com/india/uk/Surrender.html

Re: Applying for British passport after over 50 years after birth

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:47 pm
by sunburn
bookerw100 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:42 pm
Here you go all the info you need on renouncing Indian nationality.
http://www.vfsglobal.com/india/australi ... ports.html
Yes I'm familiar with the NRI procedure firsthand myself :-) However, it is not clear to me that the circumstances are the same when the person is resident in India vs non resident abroad.

I'm aware that there's a grace period for renunciation when acquiring another passport while an NRI. However, a resident becomes immediately an overstayer/out-of-status foreigner the moment they acquire a new passport while resident within India, something that does not apply to an NRI.