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Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:44 pm
by kylelondonuk
Hi,

My husband is preparing his British citizenship application. He is a US citizen with a US passport, but the online application is still asking him to supply proof of a Bachelor's degree or higher to confirm his knowledge of the English language. I can't see any way to avoid this in the form, even though the guidance clearly states the USA is on a list of exempt countries. See the guidance here: https://www.gov.uk/english-language and here: https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions )

Has anybody else from one of these countries applied online recently and got stuck on this section of the form?

Thanks

Re: Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:56 pm
by CR001
Did he get ilr now??

Do not tick the degree box in the form!

Re: Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:27 am
by Nerazzuri
Strange because the sequence of questions on the online application will then be this:

Do you have a degree that was taught in English? No

Have you passed an approved English language test? No

Are you claiming an exemption from the English language test due to a medical or mental condition? No

Re: Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:38 am
by Nerazzuri
It appears from current guidance on GOV.UK that an American citizen needs to demonstrate English language requirements for citizenship, even if it was not required for settlement:

https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions

If you’re applying for citizenship

There are no other exemptions if you’re applying to become a British citizen. You must have a relevant English language qualification even if you were exempt when you were granted settlement.

Re: Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:35 am
by kylelondonuk
Nerazzuri wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:38 am
It appears from current guidance on GOV.UK that an American citizen needs to demonstrate English language requirements for citizenship, even if it was not required for settlement:

https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions

If you’re applying for citizenship

There are no other exemptions if you’re applying to become a British citizen. You must have a relevant English language qualification even if you were exempt when you were granted settlement.
Hi Nerazzuri,

I think that guidance page actually is saying (although I agree it's confusing):
  • The list of countries (including the USA) are exempt from the English language requirements always (for citizenship and settlement)
  • Then below, where you quoted, it means there are no OTHER/EXTRA exemptions for citizenship (outside of the country list), whereas for settlement, there ARE some more ways you could be exempt, and those are listed next
But I agree with you it would be very strange to answer No, No, No to those 3 questions (especially since it's a lie, he does have a degree from the USA).

CR001, yes ILR is approved as of last Thursday.

Re: Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:26 am
by kylelondonuk
Nerazzuri, it's also very clear from the paper version of the application (accessible here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -04-19.pdf - see page 7) that you do NOT fill out any degree information if you're from one of the exempt countries. You just give a LIUK test reference number, then tick the box to say you're from an English speaking country. No qualifications questions at all.

At the moment, the paper application seems like the only way to proceed correctly.

Re: Citizenship online application for US citizen - English language proof requested

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:52 am
by Nerazzuri
That’s what I used to understand, which is why it’s strange that the online application doesn’t give you an opportunity to say you’re exempt based on nationality.