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squidger999 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:48 am

Am I right to think there are now three ways to apply for citizenship for holders of the ILR.

a) Complete the paper AN form and send it (and supporting documents) by post to Liverpool. (https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... on-form-an)

b) Apply online (https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an)

c) Apply online and then in-person to UKVAS (https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/help-support).

OR - are b) and c) the same - you apply online then attend an appointment with UKVAS?

Also, is it possible to apply for a first adult passport at the same time as you apply for citizenship?

squidger999 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:47 pm

I am confused by the requirements of applying for a first British passport.

The "Applying for a passport" guidance book (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 9__web.pdf) says on page 16 Question 2:

"Is this application for the applicant’s first British passport?" If "yes", it says "If you have naturalised or registered as a British citizen – your certificate of naturalisation or registration and the passport that you used to come into the UK and any foreign passport you hold or are included on. A ‘full’ birth/adoption certificate that shows parents details for applicants under 16 or a court order granting parental responsibility (if any are in place). Applicants 16 and over don’t normally need to give us their birth/adoption certificate."

Quite simple - just a) certificate of naturalisation b) current passport c) passport first entered the country on (if different from b)).

However, then Question 4 asks: "Was the applicant born or adopted overseas?" and, if "yes", "See additional questions for applicants born or adopted overseas’ on page 17."

Page 17 Question 1 demands (for applicants born before 1983): "Your ‘full’ birth certificate or adoption certificate that shows your parent’s details (the ‘short’ version which is issued for free by the registrar is not acceptable" and "Your father’s birth certificate or naturalisation or registration certificate" and "His marriage certificate to your mother".

My impression is that this is for people born outside the UK who have at least one British parent rather than for people who became naturalised in the UK. My point is that Question 4 on Page 16 doesn't say anything about who should adhere to Question 1 on Page 17. The text seems to say that anyone born or adopted overseas must comply.

Can someone please explain whether or not a naturalised citizen must provide the three documents (after being translated) mentioned in Page 17 Question 1? Many thanks - I find this form rather unclear!

Thanks - I appreciate your comments. I think it would be helpful if the passport form did make it clear that those who are naturalised (having been born outside the UK) do not have to provide birth certificates.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:05 am

Thanks - I appreciate your comments. I think it would be helpful if the passport form did make it clear that those who are naturalised (having been born outside the UK) do not have to provide birth certificates.

The passport guidance notes clearly states what is required for naturalised British citizens. I suggest you read it when ready to apply for a passport.

squidger999 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:51 pm

The Guide to Form AN states "One referee must be a person of any nationality who has professional standing, such as a minister of religion, civil servant or a member of a professional body, for example, accountant or solicitor (but not representing you with this application). A list of acceptable professional persons can be found on our website. The other referee must be the holder of a British citizen passport and either a professional person or over the age of 25."

Can the first referee - the one of "professional standing" - be retired? For example, a retired solicitor or dentist? Or do they have to be currently working? I have done a number of searches and there does not appear a definitive answer.