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Hi All,

I’m struggling a bit with the referees for my wife’s application, I have 1 who is a teacher which is fine but I’m struggling with the second one as most of the people I know with professions that are on the list are in some way or another related to me.

Does any one know how they define related? Is it direct family ie Father, brother etc or would relations like brother in law or niece be acceptable?

Thanks in advance

This is a regular question raised on the forum.
Related means both by blood and by law.

aw123 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:18 am

Hi All,

I’m struggling a bit with the referees for my wife’s application, I have 1 who is a teacher which is fine but I’m struggling with the second one as most of the people I know with professions that are on the list are in some way or another related to me.

Does any one know how they define related? Is it direct family ie Father, brother etc or would relations like brother in law or niece be acceptable?

Thanks in advance

You can't used family. You wife, brother in law, cousin, brother... cannot act as referee.

You can however use friends, colleagues and other professionals who know you like your manager, a doctor, social worker, health visitor, teacher... etc.

You only need ONE professional referee of any nationality. The other referee just be over 25 and British and does not have to be a professional.

Related means any relation though blood or marriage.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:00 pm

You only need ONE professional referee of any nationality. The other referee just be over 25 and British and does not have to be a professional.

Related means any relation though blood or marriage.

Ok thank you I missed that bit, that is very helpful, where can I double check please? Sorry to ask but I got shafted before for blindly taking advice from here without double checking myself to confirm. (Different username which I lost)

It is clearly stated in the form AN guidance notes, page 9

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... y-guidance

Sorry to ask but I got shafted before for blindly taking advice from here without double checking myself to confirm. (Different username which I lost)

What was your previous username? If you got "shafted" as you claim, you should have raised it with the moderators. Remember also that members are not Immigration advisors.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:36 pm

It is clearly stated in the form AN guidance notes, page 9

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... y-guidance

Sorry to ask but I got shafted before for blindly taking advice from here without double checking myself to confirm. (Different username which I lost)

What was your previous username? If you got "shafted" as you claim, you should have raised it with the moderators. Remember also that members are not Immigration advisors.

Thank you again.

I honestly can’t remember my username, would have been able to login with it if I did. I know regarding your second point, was completely my fault.....I should have have double checked there is no excuse.

I’m all ready to send off my wife’s application within the next week. One of the requirements is obviously to show you were in the UK 3 years before the application goes in. My basic problem is we went abroad in the December and came back to the uk early Jan 3 years ago but there is no stamp showing entry back to the uk in her passport, no idea why she didn’t get one. We then left the UK again for a couple of weeks in May which is clearly stamped.

So what will happen here? Will they cross check in and out dates with immigration? Or is there another way we can prove it? Thanks in advance.

Perhaps you still got emails/etickets relating to your flights? That will provide the date - you don't have to submit the evidence. If all else fails make your best guess. If it was early Jan you are ok anyway.

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:18 pm

Perhaps you still got emails/etickets relating to your flights? That will provide the date - you don't have to submit the evidence. If all else fails make your best guess. If it was early Jan you are ok anyway.

Ok so don’t they really check for evidence? Would seem a bit strange if they don’t but still have it as a requirement.

aw123 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:55 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:18 pm

Perhaps you still got emails/etickets relating to your flights? That will provide the date - you don't have to submit the evidence. If all else fails make your best guess. If it was early Jan you are ok anyway.

Ok so don’t they really check for evidence? Would seem a bit strange if they don’t but still have it as a requirement.

I can't say what they actually check but in my case I just went through 5 years of my outlook calendar and listed every trip I had. You are of course required to submit on the basis that everything is true and to the best of your knowledge.