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Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:50 pm
by tempuser202020
Here’s my situation:

1. I am a non-EU citizen and married a non-EU citizen few years back
2. My wife has never visited UK on any visa
3. We have been staying separately since last 2 years (we are not separated legally)
4. There has been no court or divorce proceedings so far.
5. Last year, in my ILR application, I had put separated as my status (since the application did not mention anything about legally separation)
6. I have completed 5 years on Tier 2 general, then got my ILR, then completed 1 year on my ILR and am now due for my citizenship application submission.

I want to know what should I put in my application:
1. Married or Separated?
2. While I am separated, I don’t have any legal documents to show that. What kind of documents are requested as part of the process ?


Thank you in advance for all the advice :? :| :?: :!:

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:15 pm
by CULLINAN
Separated. Your marriage status is irrelevant in your case i.e. Section 6(1) of the BNA 1981. No documents needed for marriage/separation.

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:13 pm
by tempuser202020
Thanks a lot for your reply, CULLINAN. Much appreciated.

Could you please help me with this query which is related to your reply.

The application also asks to provide previous partner details. The questions are:

1. Have you been previously been married or in a civil partnership. -> I HAVE TICKED YES. (IS IT OK?)
2. Name, date and place of marriage etc -> I HAVE PROVIDED THESE.
3. Date your previous marriage or civil partnership ended -> Since I do not have any document that shows any particular date of separation, I am thinking of putting the most appropriate date when this was kind of agreed, any advice from you on how I should think about this?
4. Reason your previous marriage or civil partnership ended (For example, death or divorce) -> The reason for separation was Incompatibility. Is this reason OK to put here? If not, What should I put here?

Thank you so much in advance.

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:15 pm
by CULLINAN
You are separated. You do not have an official divorce as yet so you are still not un-married. Previous marriages will be NO (if you are talking about this marriage and not any other).

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 pm
by tempuser202020
Thank you so much CULLINAN. You are an ace! Your help is really appreciated. God bless you!

Can you please help me with 2 more queries:

Q1) Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad? I have answered YES and added 3 sections to it - One for my ILR and Two for my Tier 2 general visas that I had before ILR. Please confirm if this is ok?

Q2) My 2nd query is regarding a question that is a part of each of these section - "Enter your reference number if known". I have entered UAN number for ILR section. But for my tier 2 general visa, I also have a case ID number apart from the UAN Number. I checked my ILR form (that I submitted last year!) and I had mentioned my Case ID number as my previous immigration reference number. So, My query is that for my Tier 2 details, should I enter Tier 2 UAN number or Case ID number for this question?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:00 am
by CULLINAN
tempuser202020 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 pm
Thank you so much CULLINAN. You are an ace! Your help is really appreciated. God bless you!
Thank you

Can you please help me with 2 more queries:

Q1) Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad? I have answered YES and added 3 sections to it - One for my ILR and Two for my Tier 2 general visas that I had before ILR. Please confirm if this is ok?
Yes. You need to list all UK immigration applications

Q2) My 2nd query is regarding a question that is a part of each of these section - "Enter your reference number if known". I have entered UAN number for ILR section. But for my tier 2 general visa, I also have a case ID number apart from the UAN Number. I checked my ILR form (that I submitted last year!) and I had mentioned my Case ID number as my previous immigration reference number. So, My query is that for my Tier 2 details, should I enter Tier 2 UAN number or Case ID number for this question?
Anything is ok, UAN, CaseID, BRP number and this is an “if known” question. You can even leave it empty if not known
Thanks in advance.

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:30 pm
by tempuser202020
Thank you so much CULLINAN.

Sorry to bother you but I have one last query. My employer is asking for addressee details that needs to be put in the Employment reference letter. Can you please tell me what should this letter be addressed to?

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:36 pm
by CULLINAN
tempuser202020 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:30 pm
Thank you so much CULLINAN.

Sorry to bother you but I have one last query. My employer is asking for addressee details that needs to be put in the Employment reference letter. Can you please tell me what should this letter be addressed to?
Why do you need an employer letter for Naturalisation??

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 pm
by tempuser202020
Proof of living in the UK -> as per the following:

If you do not have your passport or it was not stamped when you entered the UK, you need to include letters (for example, from your employer or government department) as proof.

I am uploading my passport first page and last page but am not uploading all the pages with stamps (as they are too many). Instead I am giving the employer letter and P60s.

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:52 pm
by CULLINAN
tempuser202020 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 pm
Proof of living in the UK -> as per the following:

If you do not have your passport or it was not stamped when you entered the UK, you need to include letters (for example, from your employer or government department) as proof.

I am uploading my passport first page and last page but am not uploading all the pages with stamps (as they are too many). Instead I am giving the employer letter and P60s.
You are a non-EEA, you must rely on your stamps. You should upload all of them for the qualifying period. You do NOT need employer letter in this case.

Re: Naturalisation with Separation

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:17 pm
by tempuser202020
Sure. Thank you! :)