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mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:38 pm

Hi,

I have few questions regarding British citizenship application. I am a non-EU and have a EU- settled status in UK since 2019.
1) I was working until December 2021 then started to claim Universal credit due to change of career. Currently, I am enrolled in a training course which will help to get a job in desired field. I want to know if Universal credit claim and having no job at present will have any effect on my citizenship application ? No - employment is not a requirement for naturalisation and claiming benefits you are entitled to is not an issue . Declare the period not working as unemployed.

2) In February 2021 I made an application for a replacement biometric card as I have Permanent residence (BRP) card under pre Brexit rule. But then I could not follow up with the application process (Biometric etc.) as I had to fly outside UK due to family medical emergency for months. Later I also found out that it is not necessary to replace card. In short last year in November 2021 my application was rejected as invalid. Do I need to give any explanation about this in citizenship application ? Applying for a card is not an immigration application so I believe it's not necessarry to explain. You have settled status and should provide the ref number and letter/email.

3) Like I mentioned above that I went outside UK for around 4 months (March-April-May-June) last year due to medical emergency in my family. I came back on 12th July 2021. As per application requirement a person should not have been outside UK for more 90 days in last 12 months and 450 days in last 5 years at the time of application. So adding 9 months after I returned to UK means I can apply for citizenship after 12 April 2022? The calculation should be simple - just deduct the nine months fromy your totals and compare to the allowances per guidance.

Sorry for the long post. I would really appreciate your response on the above questions.

Thank you

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:42 pm

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:38 pm

Hi,

I have few questions regarding British citizenship application. I am a non-EU and have a EU- settled status in UK since 2019.
1) I was working until December 2021 then started to claim Universal credit due to change of career. Currently, I am enrolled in a training course which will help to get a job in desired field. I want to know if Universal credit claim and having no job at present will have any effect on my citizenship application ? No - employment is not a requirement for naturalisation and claiming benefits you are entitled to is not an issue . Declare the period not working as unemployed.

2) In February 2021 I made an application for a replacement biometric card as I have Permanent residence (BRP) card under pre Brexit rule. But then I could not follow up with the application process (Biometric etc.) as I had to fly outside UK due to family medical emergency for months. Later I also found out that it is not necessary to replace card. In short last year in November 2021 my application was rejected as invalid. Do I need to give any explanation about this in citizenship application ? Applying for a card is not an immigration application so I believe it's not necessarry to explain. You have settled status and should provide the ref number and letter/email.

3) Like I mentioned above that I went outside UK for around 4 months (March-April-May-June) last year due to medical emergency in my family. I came back on 12th July 2021. As per application requirement a person should not have been outside UK for more 90 days in last 12 months and 450 days in last 5 years at the time of application. So adding 9 months after I returned to UK means I can apply for citizenship after 12 April 2022? The calculation should be simple - just deduct the nine months fromy your totals and compare to the allowances per guidance.

Sorry for the long post. I would really appreciate your response on the above questions.

Thank you

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:14 am

Not familiar with UC but do you get regular statements what your payments will be?
Any letter from NHS/GP/Hospital?

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:44 pm

Take screen shots of the UC online statements - if there's an option to print print them irrespective of whether they are online. I cannot guarantee that all those documents will be accepted but you need to provide something. If they need further information they might contact you. Not providing anything may lead to a rejection of the application.

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:52 pm

Q) Please could you guide me that how documents should be uploaded ? Should I upload a document for each month in the last 5 years ?

Q) Can there be more than one document for certain months ? The reason I asked this because I will upload UC statements for last 4 months so I may also upload few bank statements which will show my spendings against UC payment (though bank statements are not considered as proof of residency but here I think it may support my case).

Q) I was self employed back in 2014/2015. How can I mentioned this in my employment history ?

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:47 pm

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:52 pm

Q) Please could you guide me that how documents should be uploaded ? Should I upload a document for each month in the last 5 years ?

Normally one would submit one document per year - however as your documentation seem to be patchy best to load per month.

Q) Can there be more than one document for certain months ? The reason I asked this because I will upload UC statements for last 4 months so I may also upload few bank statements which will show my spendings against UC payment (though bank statements are not considered as proof of residency but here I think it may support my case).

You are free to upload as many documents as you wish.

Q) I was self employed back in 2014/2015. How can I mentioned this in my employment history ?

There should be an option to select self-employed, but you can also write a covering note explaining this.

Q) I will be using my UK university degree as a proof of English language. Do I need to upload my official transcripts or certificate that we receive at convocation ? Or should I upload both of them ?

Q) As I acquire EU settled status so do I just need to upload my BRP card (Permanent residence card issued under EEA regulations) or also EU settled status cover letter(pdf) which was issued later when I applied for EUSS ?

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:07 pm

Q) I will be using my UK university degree as a proof of English language. Do I need to upload my official transcripts or certificate that we receive at convocation ? Or should I upload both of them ?

Degree Certificate is sufficient.

Q) As I acquire EU settled status so do I just need to upload my BRP card (Permanent residence card issued under EEA regulations) or also EU settled status cover letter(pdf) which was issued later when I applied for EUSS ?

Upload both - You are applying on the basis of EU SS though.

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:12 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:07 pm

Q) I will be using my UK university degree as a proof of English language. Do I need to upload my official transcripts or certificate that we receive at convocation ? Or should I upload both of them ?

Degree Certificate is sufficient.

Q) As I acquire EU settled status so do I just need to upload my BRP card (Permanent residence card issued under EEA regulations) or also EU settled status cover letter(pdf) which was issued later when I applied for EUSS ?

Upload both - You are applying on the basis of EU SS though.

Thanks a lot

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 12:13 pm

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:12 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:07 pm

Q) I will be using my UK university degree as a proof of English language. Do I need to upload my official transcripts or certificate that we receive at convocation ? Or should I upload both of them ?

Degree Certificate is sufficient.

Q) As I acquire EU settled status so do I just need to upload my BRP card (Permanent residence card issued under EEA regulations) or also EU settled status cover letter(pdf) which was issued later when I applied for EUSS ?

Upload both - You are applying on the basis of EU SS though.

Thanks a lot

Hi,

Just a couple of more questions as I am just about to submit my application. In form there is a question where it says:

Q) Did you meet the knowledge of English requirement as a part of an indefinite leave application made on or after 28 October 2013?
Should I say "No" because in my settled status application there was no such requirement.


Q) Since I will be using my University degree as a proof of English language. Will it make any issue in regards to CSI ? Because I didn't have it.

Thank you

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 3:18 pm

Q1: "No" is the answer as not needed for EUSS
Q2: If you were a student as family member of of an EU citizen you were expected to have CSI, though not many did ... you need to explain why you didn't have it. Mention any private medical arrangements you may have had during that period. Note we have not seen any refusals based purely on CSI issues.
Q3: your partner's employment status is not relevant in this context.

mr_londoner wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 3:29 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 3:18 pm

Q1: "No" is the answer as not needed for EUSS
Q2: If you were a student as family member of of an EU citizen you were expected to have CSI, though not many did ... you need to explain why you didn't have it. Mention any private medical arrangements you may have had during that period. Note we have not seen any refusals based purely on CSI issues.
Q3: your partner's employment status is not relevant in this context.

Thank you for your reply.
Actually I was not aware of CSI at that time. I only came to know about it when I was applying for PR but then I was advised that since my EEA partner was exercising treaty rights as self employed therefore, I wasn't required.
Now I don't know how to address this issue in my application.


Mention any private medical arrangements you may have had during that period
I thought I was covered under NHS.

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 3:18 pm

Q1: "No" is the answer as not needed for EUSS
Q2: If you were a student as family member of of an EU citizen you were expected to have CSI, though not many did ... you need to explain why you didn't have it. Mention any private medical arrangements you may have had during that period. Note we have not seen any refusals based purely on CSI issues.
Q3: your partner's employment status is not relevant in this context.

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 10:07 pm

NHS was not accepted as CSI - though it would have been sensible as NHS is universal based on residency.
I believe because you were under EU regulations exercising EU Treaty Rights it would have applied.

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Mon May 02, 2022 4:21 pm

I think your suggested cover note explains the situation from all angles - perhaps other members with CSI issues might want to comment.
You have probably seen this long-running thread? british-citizenship/csi-and-settle-stat ... l#p2044823
Your selections "Or say No to (1) and (2) and Yes to (3) and attach cover letter?" seems sensible.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Tue May 03, 2022 3:53 pm

As a non EU family member, you did NOT require CSI if your EU family member was exercising treaty rights.