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Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:08 am
by bsc2007
Hi forum


Has anyone been fined for not returning ILR BRP after the ceremony? Is anyone fined for travelling abroad with the BRP card? There is a possibility that my wife and daughter might need to travel on Indian passports + ILR BRP card after the ceremony.


- My wife and daughter are applying for BC today (04-Apr-2022).
- We are travelling to India from 24-Jun-2022 to 27-Aug-2022.
- To get the British passport and eVisa to India, they must have the ceremony by 15-May-2022 (there is a chance of this happening).
- They are safe if the approval is on or after 29-May-2022 (three months to attend the ceremony).
- There is a problem if the approval is roughly between 10-May-2022 to 28-May-2022 (and it looks like that might happen).


Many thanks,
B

Re: Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:22 am
by bsc2007
Also, now that the pandemic is over, would we still have six months to attend the ceremony, or will it be curtailed to three months soon?

If it is six months, then they will attend the ceremony after returning to the UK (which was my initial plan before seeing that some are getting approvals within a month).

Re: Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:44 pm
by talreh20
bsc2007 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:08 am
Hi forum


Has anyone been fined for not returning ILR BRP after the ceremony? Is anyone fined for travelling abroad with the BRP card? There is a possibility that my wife and daughter might need to travel on Indian passports + ILR BRP card after the ceremony.


- My wife and daughter are applying for BC today (04-Apr-2022).
- We are travelling to India from 24-Jun-2022 to 27-Aug-2022.
- To get the British passport and eVisa to India, they must have the ceremony by 15-May-2022 (there is a chance of this happening).
- They are safe if the approval is on or after 29-May-2022 (three months to attend the ceremony).
- There is a problem if the approval is roughly between 10-May-2022 to 28-May-2022 (and it looks like that might happen).


Many thanks,
B
When your say your wife and daughter are applying BC today, do you mean naturalisation application?
Naturalisation applications take months in my experience. I doubt you'll get a reply anytime before 3 months but never say never.

As far as i know, once ceremony is done, BRP (ILR) is void/Invalid. You are safe to travel until the naturalisation application is not decided or decided and you haven't attended the ceremony. If you travel on ILR BRP after the ceremony you risk being declined entry back to the UK.

I don't know about 3 or 6 months ceremony attendance deadline.

Hope the above helps.

Re: Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:04 pm
by kamoe
talreh20 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:44 pm
If you travel on ILR BRP after the ceremony you risk being declined entry back to the UK.
Some clarification on wording, here. As a British citizen you cannot be denied entry into the UK. I have seen in other posts the general advice of traveling with your citizen certificate + foreign passport as an alternative.

That being said, if you are a visa-required national, the challenge is to prove to Stupid and other carriers that you have the right to come to the UK. Different companies might accept different documentation, but that refers to being denied boarding onto a plane, and is different from having your "entry declined into the UK", that would be illegal.

In any case, Stupid would not know a ILR is null and void. As long as it says on paper that it's valid, they'll usually take it as face value (But I'm aware that was not the original question :D )

Re: Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:23 am
by Ben1989
talreh20 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:44 pm
When your say your wife and daughter are applying BC today, do you mean naturalisation application?
Naturalisation applications take months in my experience. I doubt you'll get a reply anytime before 3 months but never say never.
My wife received her invitation to a ceremony four weeks after her application recently so it can be that quick. It can equally be a lot longer.

Three months is now the ceremony deadline.

Re: Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:39 am
by Ben1989
If you intend on travelling and are worried why are you applying now?

You also need your passport to travel, that's added time after your ceremony due to being allowed to board. Seems you're giving yourself a headache over just waiting?

Re: Anyone fined £1000 for not returning BRP?

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:01 pm
by mesn
Don't think anyone has ever been fined but are you willing to ignore the advice given in the approval email about surrendering the BRP and try your luck?

Would suggest you apply now and Bio may take a month. If you get the approval before you come back, you can always schedule your Ceremony later to keep the BRP valid.