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Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:53 am
by ashontherun
Hello,
I am applying for Naturalisation soon and filled up the form. The documents list say:
2 Referees Declaration
Is there a template or a separate form for Referees Declaration please?
Please could anyone send a link or a template?
Thanks
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:19 am
by alterhase58
You should have been able to print the forms once you submitted your application.
You could use this one - they haven't changed as far as I know:
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... on_MN1.pdf
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 am
by ashontherun
Thank you for this link - much appreciated!
I have a further question please:
I have a drink driving conviction in June 2018 for which I was handed a non-custodial sentence, which I am declaring as part of my naturalisation application.
However, I have below concerns:
- Will my application be refused (though 3 years have passed since my date of conviction) under good character requirements
- Do I have to hire a solicitor to write a covering letter explaining my circumstances just to improve likelihood of accepting my application for naturalisation
- Shall I wait for some more time to increase chances of getting my application approved
Any help is appreciated - Thanks
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:20 pm
by alterhase58
ashontherun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 am
Thank you for this link - much appreciated!
I have a further question please:
I have a drink driving conviction in June 2018 for which I was handed a non-custodial sentence, which I am declaring as part of my naturalisation application.
However, I have below concerns:
- Will my application be refused (though 3 years have passed since my date of conviction) under good character requirements
The important thing is to disclose this, as you have done. I don't believe you'd be refused on this, but if you don't declare this could go against the "good character" requirement.
- Do I have to hire a solicitor to write a covering letter explaining my circumstances just to improve likelihood of accepting my application for naturalisation
You can write a covering note yourself, explain factually. Not sure why a solicitor can do a better job than yourself.
- Shall I wait for some more time to increase chances of getting my application approved
If you satisfy all the other requirements there shouldn't be any need to wait.
Any help is appreciated - Thanks
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:43 pm
by ashontherun
Thank you for your prompt reply
Cheers!
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:48 pm
by ashontherun
Hello,
I have a further question regarding the referee please.
From the guidance I have read, it says that one referee should be the person who is:
"a British passport holder and either a professional person or aged over 25 (at least one referee must be a professional person)"
My query is:
- Is there a definition or guidance related to a professional person.
- I know couple of friends working with Banks and are British passport holder, so am I okay to provide their reference as they work in Banking
- Is this going to be suffice the definition of "professional person"
Any kind of help is appreciated.
Thanks
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:49 pm
by alterhase58
A "Bank or Building Society Official" is acceptable (presumably friends are employed by a bank).
See page 25:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 2.0ext.pdf
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm
by ashontherun
Thank you for your prompt response.
I have further queries:
a) Naturalisation application asks for employment history - I got my ILR through Entrepreneur route and was a director for 8 years. So is it okay if I state under employment section that I was a director and provide my company's name please? Will that be sufficient enough or do I have to provide evidence in relation to this please?
b) Secondly, I got some Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs) from Dart Charge but were cancelled as I presented my case to them reason being someone cloned my car reg and were using to cross Dartford crossing whereas I live too far from Dartford crossing. These PCNs were cancelled by Dart Charge later when I presented my evidence to them. Shall I disclose this incident under additional information section to prove my good character or shall I omit these please?
Thank you.
Re: Referee Declaration
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:17 am
by ashontherun
Please if anyone can help that will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Tax office reference number
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:08 am
by ashontherun
Hello moderators,
The naturalisation form asks for Tax office reference number.
I have 2 employers currently and I am unable to find tax office reference number on both the pay slips. Can I use UTR number from HMRC to provide tax office reference number please?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:34 am
by alterhase58
It should be on the P60, Employers Tax Office Reference - suppose UTR will do if you can't find the ref number. Also your NI number will point them to your tax account.
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:47 am
by ashontherun
Thank you for your prompt reply @alterhase.
I don't have P60s from both these 2 employers as its not been a year. therefore, I thought to use UTR instead of Employer Ref number.
Thanks
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:50 am
by CR001
Ask HR/payroll, they will be able to give it to you.
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:47 pm
by ashontherun
I will try that. Thank you @CR001.
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:58 am
by Cake
Not my topic but I spoke to HMRC and they were a bit confused on this as well. They think it's the employer's paye reference number which is 3 digits/2 letters of anything so will look like. 123/XX.
Hope this helps someone.
The numbers on my p60 are different and they're only for internal pay office
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:05 pm
by ashontherun
Thank you @Cake for your reply.
I have further queries please if any of the Group Moderators can reply please.
I have had a few cancelled PCNs (cancelled after I provided evidence and represented them successfully).
Just to have my peace of mind, do I need to declare the cancelled PCNs and prove my "good character". I just want to do the right thing.
@alterhase or any senior group members, please could you guide me.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:15 pm
by alterhase58
If they have been cancelled they don't exist - so not necessary to declare.
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:28 pm
by ashontherun
@alterhase - I was thinking along the same lines. Thank you
Much appreciated
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:14 pm
by ashontherun
I have a further query please.
Its regarding the photograph - so I have received link for IDV App and I am in the process of uploading documents.
Regarding my photograph, the last time when I provided Biometrics I didn't have "beard" and now I have started growing beard. So my question is:
Is it going to make any difference if I sent my photograph with beard or is it alright or am I thinking too much?
Please could you advise.
Thanks
Re: Tax office reference number
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 3:03 pm
by AmazonianX
ashontherun wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 2:14 pm
I have a further query please.
Its regarding the photograph - so I have received link for IDV App and I am in the process of uploading documents.
Regarding my photograph, the last time when I provided Biometrics I didn't have "beard" and now I have started growing beard. So my question is:
Is it going to make any difference if I sent my photograph with beard or is it alright or am I thinking too much?
Please could you advise.
Thanks
You are thinking too much, the purpose of the exercise is to update what's on record and if you are selected for IDV App use it.