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MN1 Parent's Immigration Status Question
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:00 am
by ElizabethApricot
Hello,
We're applying to register our daughter (born 2019) using the online MN1 form, based on my husband's settled status (indefinite leave to remain under the EU Settlement Agreement, granted to him in 2020).
I want to make sure I understand the wording of this question:
"Are you relying on your parent's permanent residence (either as an EEA National or the family member of an EEA National) as evidence of their settled status in the United Kingdom?"
Am I correct that they are asking if your parent only has permanent residence based on Treaty Rights (the old system, basically), but hasn't been granted ILR under the EU Settlement Agreement?
Or is there something more to this question?
I think he would have technically had permanent residence in spring 2020 because UK was still part of the EU at that point, but he chose to only apply for settled status and not a permanent residence card.
I'm assuming that for the MN1 application, as evidence of my husband's settled status, we can just provide the letter showing he had been granted settled status, and don't also have to provide all the evidence that would have been required to be granted a permanent residence card?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can clarify. I tend to overthink things and confuse myself.
MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:41 pm
by ElizabethApricot
We are nearly finished with our daughter's MN1 application but before we submit I was wondering if there's a time limit for enrolling biometrics. Because of where we live, this is a day trip for us, and our daughter is about to start reception, plus I work full time, term time and am not supposed to have time off work except for emergencies. I'm unsure if we will be allowed to delay biometric enrollment until October half term. Do the referee declarations expire?
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
by CR001
You have 45 days to enroll Biometrics. The centres are open on weekends. Just check based on your location and where you go. You can attend at any centre.
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:23 pm
by anonvtic
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
The photo on the referee declaration form has to be no more than
one month old. As per the official guidance (
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... essible--2) for all nationality applications,
Photographs
Applications must include a recent passport photograph, which must meet the published standards for passport photographs.
referring to which here (
https://www.gov.uk/photos-for-passports) states that:
Your photo must have been taken in the last month.
Since, the referees must have seen the photo affixed onto the provided space in the declaration form before they complete the form and sign it, it can hence be deduced that the
referee declaration should also be dated within
one month of the online application submission date.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:38 pm
by CR001
@anonvtic Your second point is relevant to passport applications and photos, not MN1 referee forms where rhe most can be a bit older than a month.
Many have submitted referee forms signed 2 or 3 months before applying or biometric appointment.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:48 pm
by ElizabethApricot
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
You have 45 days to enroll Biometrics. The centres are open on weekends. Just check based on your location and where you go. You can attend at any centre.
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
Thanks for the information! We live in Cornwall so the centre in Exeter is the only one we can do without doing an overnight. I went there to do my own biometrics last winter and I don't recall seeing weekend appointments but I had booked it to coincide with my daughter's hospital appointment in Exeter so it's very possible I wasn't paying attention to it at all.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:24 am
by AmazonianX
ElizabethApricot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:48 pm
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
You have 45 days to enroll Biometrics. The centres are open on weekends. Just check based on your location and where you go. You can attend at any centre.
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
Thanks for the information! We live in Cornwall so the centre in Exeter is the only one we can do without doing an overnight. I went there to do my own biometrics last winter and I don't recall seeing weekend appointments but I had booked it to coincide with my daughter's hospital appointment in Exeter so it's very possible I wasn't paying attention to it at all.
You can contact the centre to check availability.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:37 pm
by ElizabethApricot
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:24 am
ElizabethApricot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:48 pm
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
You have 45 days to enroll Biometrics. The centres are open on weekends. Just check based on your location and where you go. You can attend at any centre.
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
Thanks for the information! We live in Cornwall so the centre in Exeter is the only one we can do without doing an overnight. I went there to do my own biometrics last winter and I don't recall seeing weekend appointments but I had booked it to coincide with my daughter's hospital appointment in Exeter so it's very possible I wasn't paying attention to it at all.
You can contact the centre to check availability.
I found the opening hours on the UKVCAS website. Exeter doesn't offer Saturday appointments but Reading does. Reading is 4.5 hours away though so that would be hard. Do you think if I call the centres I can find out if they have any appointments on Tuesday or Wednesday next week, or will they not divulge that information? I don't go back to work until Thursday.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:29 am
by AmazonianX
ElizabethApricot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:37 pm
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:24 am
ElizabethApricot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:48 pm
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
You have 45 days to enroll Biometrics. The centres are open on weekends. Just check based on your location and where you go. You can attend at any centre.
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
Thanks for the information! We live in Cornwall so the centre in Exeter is the only one we can do without doing an overnight. I went there to do my own biometrics last winter and I don't recall seeing weekend appointments but I had booked it to coincide with my daughter's hospital appointment in Exeter so it's very possible I wasn't paying attention to it at all.
You can contact the centre to check availability.
I found the opening hours on the UKVCAS website. Exeter doesn't offer Saturday appointments but Reading does. Reading is 4.5 hours away though so that would be hard. Do you think if I call the centres I can find out if they have any appointments on Tuesday or Wednesday next week, or will they not divulge that information? I don't go back to work until Thursday.
I can not claim knowledge of how the centres operate, however if you don't try them you may not know.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:57 pm
by ElizabethApricot
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:29 am
ElizabethApricot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:37 pm
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:24 am
ElizabethApricot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:48 pm
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:53 pm
You have 45 days to enroll Biometrics. The centres are open on weekends. Just check based on your location and where you go. You can attend at any centre.
Referee declarations should not be months old. A few weeks is fine.
Thanks for the information! We live in Cornwall so the centre in Exeter is the only one we can do without doing an overnight. I went there to do my own biometrics last winter and I don't recall seeing weekend appointments but I had booked it to coincide with my daughter's hospital appointment in Exeter so it's very possible I wasn't paying attention to it at all.
You can contact the centre to check availability.
I found the opening hours on the UKVCAS website. Exeter doesn't offer Saturday appointments but Reading does. Reading is 4.5 hours away though so that would be hard. Do you think if I call the centres I can find out if they have any appointments on Tuesday or Wednesday next week, or will they not divulge that information? I don't go back to work until Thursday.
I can not claim knowledge of how the centres operate, however if you don't try them you may not know.
Thankfully my boss is being understanding after I explained the situation and letting me take a day off for the biometrics, despite my term -time contract
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:06 pm
by ElizabethApricot
Question about evidence of parent's (applicant's dad) settled status for the MN1 application.
He is Polish and thus doesn't have a BRC. His proof of settled status is online.
Would his status outcome letter from the Home Office be enough evidence, despite this letter explicitly saying "This letter is written notification of leave, which you may wish to keep for your personal records, but it is not proof of your status and cannot be used to prove your status to others."
Or would it be better to preemptively upload a scan of his Polish passport, despite this not being in the document checklist. His settled status is linked to his passport.
Would be grateful if others applying based on settled status under EU settlement scheme could share what was accepted as evidence.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:43 am
by alterhase58
Provide Settled Status reference number as it’s a digital status. You can load the as well.
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:09 pm
by ElizabethApricot
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:43 am
Provide Settled Status reference number as it’s a digital status. You can load the as well.
OK thank you. The reference number is on his confirmation letter so that should be sufficient
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:13 pm
by ElizabethApricot
The checklist for my daughter's MN1 application says to upload her passport.
Do they mean just the bio page? The instructions aren't explicit. She has a few stamps in the back (but no visas or permits for UK and she hasn't been asked about travel history in the application).
Re: MN1 time limit for enrolling biometrics?
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:20 pm
by alterhase58
I would guess the passport personal details page(s) are sufficient.
As there's no MN1 requirement for a travel history shouldn't be a problem.