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Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:28 pm
by moona18
Hello all,
I'm making an application for my son (French national, adopted by us here in France- me British, my husband french) for british citizenship under section 3(1) of the MN1 form and I am just about to get my documents to post. I have a question regarding the official documents to be sent with this application for my son. He is a French national and has a passport and ID card. Can someone confirm if I need to send the originals to the Home office or will a copy do? If I must send the original, can I send his ID card instead of his passport as we may be going on holiday this summer.
I would appreciate any help.
Thank you
Moona
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 9:42 am
by moona18
Following on from my post, I would just like to clarify that the application under section 3(1) is for registration at the Home secretary's discretion. Also, I will be posted out my son's birth certificate
Thank you
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 12:54 pm
by moona18
anyone able to help at all?
Also, does anyone know the address to post supporting documents to, please? I'm making an application online but as i'm abroad, i need to post out all the relevant supporting documents.
thanks
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:21 pm
by moona18
Can anyone help at all??
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:58 pm
by AmazonianX
You will get a response when someone with appropriate knowledge of you enquiry comes across it.
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:28 pm
by alterhase58
moona18 wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 12:54 pm
anyone able to help at all?
Also, does anyone know the address to post supporting documents to, please? I'm making an application online but as i'm abroad, i need to post out all the relevant supporting documents.
thanks
When you submit/pay your application you should receive a reference number and address for posting the documents.
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 11:42 pm
by moona18
thank you for your help.
Re: Child application MN1 section 3(1)
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 11:42 pm
by moona18
AmazonianX wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:58 pm
You will get a response when someone with appropriate knowledge of you enquiry comes across it.
thank you
Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:09 pm
by moona18
Hello all,
I'm applying for british citizenship for my son under 3(1) of the MN1 form under the Home secretary's discretion. We live abroad and I completed the application online, then I was asked, at the end of my application, to post all documents within 30 days which I did. i posted everything out and according to the tracking website, the documents were delivered on the 6th of June. I'm probably being too impatient but I have not heard anything regarding the biometrics that need to be done.
My question is, in general how long is the wait after submitting the documents before I am contacted? The only confirmation emails I have are after I submitted the application form and paid the fee.
Any help would be appreciated, thank you
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:39 pm
by CR001
It can take a few months to receive biometric instructions.
As your child was adopted, be prepared for a bit of a wait as many checks will need to be done.
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:36 am
by moona18
Thank you
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:10 pm
by moona18
Just another question if I may please?
I asked for my son's passport and my birth certificate to be returned to me asap. Is this something they can do before a decision is made? Do you know generally how long they take or when they return original documents please?
thank you once again
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:15 pm
by CR001
Originals are usually returned after the decision is made.
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 5:00 pm
by moona18
thanks for the info
BIOMETRICS: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:16 pm
by moona18
Hello,
we have my son's biometrics appointment in paris, for his child citizenship application, and I was wondering if we need to take anything with us?
Nothing was mentioned when I made the application, and all supporting documents were posted to the UKVI Liverpool office. I'll take our ID for verification purposes.
If anyone has any adivce, i'd really appreciate it.
Thanks
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:20 pm
by alterhase58
If you are thinking of documents to take then ID is what you need to take. The biometrics people won’t review documents that’s done by UKVI.
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:47 am
by moona18
Thank you for your help
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:04 am
by moona18
Hello again,
My son had his biometrics taken yesterday and the lady who took them said the only confirmation we would receive is an email saying the biometrics have been submitted. I haven't received the email yet, so I was wondering if they send emails out after all biometrics and how long I should expect to wait for it for?
thanks
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:42 am
by AmazonianX
moona18 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:04 am
Hello again,
My son had his biometrics taken yesterday and the lady who took them said the only confirmation we would receive is an email saying the biometrics have been submitted. I haven't received the email yet, so I was wondering if they send emails out after all biometrics and how long I should expect to wait for it for?
thanks
You may and you may not receive a confirmation, there is no method to it.
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:04 pm
by moona18
thank you
Re: Documents posted for MN1 application from abroad
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:28 pm
by moona18
Hello again,
I've just been on the TLS website, where i booked the appointment, and I can see this message:
"Your application process has started on 4 Oct 2023 at 11:09. Some of the documents are missing or not compliant with the Mission's requirements."
The lady who did the biometrics was asking why we had my son's French ID card and why we didnt have his french passport. I explained that the passport was sent as supporting documents, as it was asked for. She checked with her supervisor who said the ID is fine, so she processed it all.
Has anyone seen this message before or know what, if anything, I should do at this stage, please?
Thanks once again
email received from home office delay with application
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:04 pm
by moona18
Hello All,
I've received the below email from the home office. My son's application is under discretion of the home secretary 3(1), as he was adopted by us in France and we live here too. I know it's not the standard type of application but should i start worrying or is this email sent to most people who have had complex cases but eventually got an approval?
Thanks. Moona
Here is the email:
Dear Parent,
We aim to process all applications within 6 months from the date submitted. However, in certain circumstances this target is not possible. Following our assessment of your child’s case, unfortunately it appears your child’s application will not be processed within the 6 month target.
This is because your child’s application raises exceptionally complex issues and we require further time to consider your child’s case thoroughly and reach a decision.
Yours sincerely
Passports, Citizenship & Civil Registration
Re: email received from home office delay with application
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:10 pm
by alterhase58
It's impossible to tell from the email that there's a problem with the application as such and what it might be.
We see many reports from applicants with the same or similar wording. There is an assumption that UKVI are just late with processing the application - I don't recall any details reported as to what the exceptional circumstances are/were.
So on the face of it it means carry on waiting, and/or maybe try and reply and ask what is "exceptional".
Re: email received from home office delay with application
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:21 pm
by contorted_svy
moona18 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:04 pm
Hello All,
I've received the below email from the home office. My son's application is under discretion of the home secretary 3(1), as he was adopted by us in France and we live here too. I know it's not the standard type of application but should i start worrying or is this email sent to most people who have had complex cases but eventually got an approval?
Thanks. Moona
Here is the email:
Dear Parent,
We aim to process all applications within 6 months from the date submitted. However, in certain circumstances this target is not possible. Following our assessment of your child’s case, unfortunately it appears your child’s application will not be processed within the 6 month target.
This is because your child’s application raises exceptionally complex issues and we require further time to consider your child’s case thoroughly and reach a decision.
Yours sincerely
Passports, Citizenship & Civil Registration
If they need additional documentation they will ask for it. It is a stressful time, you can ask if there is a specific issue that they are trying to address but it may well take them a while to respond. I wonder what MP you may want to write to as you live abroad - maybe the one for your last British postcode?
Re: email received from home office delay with application
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:47 pm
by moona18
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:10 pm
It's impossible to tell from the email that there's a problem with the application as such and what it might be.
We see many reports from applicants with the same or similar wording. There is an assumption that UKVI are just late with processing the application - I don't recall any details reported as to what the exceptional circumstances are/were.
So on the face of it it means carry on waiting, and/or maybe try and reply and ask what is "exceptional".
Thank you for your help alterhase58, i really appreciate it. I'll wait for a couple of months and if still no news, then i'll contact them again.