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Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:10 pm
by Jib123
Hi All,
I became a British citizen in 2019 and got married in 2020 to Indian Citizen (wife).
My wife is currently on a Spouse visa.
My question is she can apply for naturalisation after residing in the UK for 3 years right?
An answer to my above question would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for all on this great forum.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:13 pm
by alterhase58
Jib123 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:10 pm
Hi All,
I became a British citizen in 2019 and got married in 2020 to Indian Citizen (wife).
My wife is currently on a Spouse visa.
My question is she can apply for naturalisation after residing in the UK for 3 years right?
An answer to my above question would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for all on this great forum.
No - your wife needs ILR which takes five years of residency.
For naturalisation your wife will only have to provide 3 years of evidence and won't have to wait 12 months after receiving ILR.
That may be the reason for your question?
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:13 pm
by zimba
Without getting ILR, no.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:03 pm
by Jib123
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:13 pm
Jib123 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:10 pm
Hi All,
I became a British citizen in 2019 and got married in 2020 to Indian Citizen (wife).
My wife is currently on a Spouse visa.
My question is she can apply for naturalisation after residing in the UK for 3 years right?
An answer to my above question would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for all on this great forum.
No - your wife needs ILR which takes five years of residency.
For naturalisation your wife will only have to provide 3 years of evidence and won't have to wait 12 months after receiving ILR.
That may be the reason for your question?
Thanks for your reply.
Ok, She needs to live in the UK for 5 years to qualify for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), even if she is married to a British Citizen.?
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:05 pm
by meself2
Yes.
Naturalization (for which threshold in your case is 3 years) and getting ILR (end of immigration journey) are two different things.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:17 pm
by Jib123
Thanks v much for clarification on this.
I thought she could apply for citizenship after residing in the UK for 3 years which is not correct.
Thanks again for your help.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:30 pm
by zimba
Jib123 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:17 pm
Thanks v much for clarification on this.
I thought she could apply for citizenship after residing in the UK for 3 years which is not correct.
Thanks again for your help.
Being free from immigration control is one of the very first requirements of applying for British citizenship via naturalisation, hence ILR comes first
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:49 pm
by Jib123
One more query, please..
My wife received her Biometric Residence Permit (BRP) with an expiry date of September 2024, indicating an 18-month validity period. However, upon checking her visa status online using the reference number provided in the accompanying letter (which, unfortunately, we have misplaced), it indicates her visa is valid until April 2025.
This discrepancy has left us uncertain about her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements. Specifically, we are unsure if she can travel outside the UK after September 2024, as per the expiry date stated on her BRP, or if she needs to reapply for a visa considering the later expiry date indicated online.
Given our situation, I kindly request your assistance in two matters:
Is it possible for UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) to provide us with a copy of the letter containing the reference number to check my wife's online visa status? Alternatively, is there any other method available to retrieve this reference number?
Could you please clarify the discrepancy between the expiry dates stated on the BRP and the online visa status? Specifically, what would be the correct expiry date for her visa, and what implications does this have for her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements?
Your prompt attention to this matter and guidance would be immensely appreciated. Thank you for your assistance and understanding.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:30 pm
by contorted_svy
You can just apply for a BRP renewal - I would imagine the correct date is what is shown online. Physical BRPs will be phased out from next year anyway so you will get a BRP valid until December 2024.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:50 pm
by zimba
Jib123 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:49 pm
One more query, please..
My wife received her Biometric Residence Permit (BRP) with an expiry date of September 2024, indicating an 18-month validity period. However, upon checking her visa status online using the reference number provided in the accompanying letter (which, unfortunately, we have misplaced), it indicates her visa is valid until April 2025.
This discrepancy has left us uncertain about her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements. Specifically, we are unsure if she can travel outside the UK after September 2024, as per the expiry date stated on her BRP, or if she needs to reapply for a visa considering the later expiry date indicated online.
Given our situation, I kindly request your assistance in two matters:
Is it possible for UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) to provide us with a copy of the letter containing the reference number to check my wife's online visa status? Alternatively, is there any other method available to retrieve this reference number?
Could you please clarify the discrepancy between the expiry dates stated on the BRP and the online visa status? Specifically, what would be the correct expiry date for her visa, and what implications does this have for her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements?
Your prompt attention to this matter and guidance would be immensely appreciated. Thank you for your assistance and understanding.
The visa validity is the one on the letter.
You will find more relevant information here:
Information on eVisas as all BPRs will be phased out from 1st Jan 2025
I think her BRP should have been issued until the end of December, so I suggest applying to renew but that is just the expiry of the card which probably will not go beyond December
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:33 pm
by SupperDog
Jib123 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:49 pm
One more query, please..
My wife received her Biometric Residence Permit (BRP) with an expiry date of September 2024, indicating an 18-month validity period. However, upon checking her visa status online using the reference number provided in the accompanying letter (which, unfortunately, we have misplaced), it indicates her visa is valid until April 2025.
This discrepancy has left us uncertain about her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements. Specifically, we are unsure if she can travel outside the UK after September 2024, as per the expiry date stated on her BRP, or if she needs to reapply for a visa considering the later expiry date indicated online.
Given our situation, I kindly request your assistance in two matters:
Is it possible for UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) to provide us with a copy of the letter containing the reference number to check my wife's online visa status? Alternatively, is there any other method available to retrieve this reference number?
Could you please clarify the discrepancy between the expiry dates stated on the BRP and the online visa status? Specifically, what would be the correct expiry date for her visa, and what implications does this have for her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements?
Your prompt attention to this matter and guidance would be immensely appreciated. Thank you for your assistance and understanding.
If your BRP expires in Sep 2024 you
don't have to renew as UKVI account registration starts from April this year. After setting up a UKVI account you don't need a BRP anymore.
One more thing I am concerned about is the expiry date. If your visa is valid until April 2025, your BRP should expire on 31/12/2024. It looks like an error when they print your BRP card. But I don't think you have to worry about it too much if the online status shows the correct date.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:38 pm
by SupperDog
zimba wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:50 pm
Jib123 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:49 pm
One more query, please..
My wife received her Biometric Residence Permit (BRP) with an expiry date of September 2024, indicating an 18-month validity period. However, upon checking her visa status online using the reference number provided in the accompanying letter (which, unfortunately, we have misplaced), it indicates her visa is valid until April 2025.
This discrepancy has left us uncertain about her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements. Specifically, we are unsure if she can travel outside the UK after September 2024, as per the expiry date stated on her BRP, or if she needs to reapply for a visa considering the later expiry date indicated online.
Given our situation, I kindly request your assistance in two matters:
Is it possible for UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) to provide us with a copy of the letter containing the reference number to check my wife's online visa status? Alternatively, is there any other method available to retrieve this reference number?
Could you please clarify the discrepancy between the expiry dates stated on the BRP and the online visa status? Specifically, what would be the correct expiry date for her visa, and what implications does this have for her travel plans and potential visa renewal requirements?
Your prompt attention to this matter and guidance would be immensely appreciated. Thank you for your assistance and understanding.
The visa validity is the one on the letter.
You will find more relevant information here:
Information on eVisas as all BPRs will be phased out from 1st Jan 2025
I think her BRP should have been issued until the end of December, so I suggest applying to renew but that is just the expiry of the card which probably will not go beyond December
UKVI account setting up starts from April this year. If her BRP expires after April she doesn't have to renew it.
I think it's better to add this information to the sticky eVisa topic as well.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:45 pm
by zimba
@SupperDog Can you provide a source for this ?
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:51 pm
by SupperDog
zimba wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:45 pm
@SupperDog Can you provide a source for this ?
https://questions-statements.parliament ... 1-18/10472
Question: To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what his target is for the number of online UK Visas and Immigration accounts to be registered for holders of physical biometric residence permits by the end of June 2024.
Answered by Tom Pursglove:
25 January 2024
A number of our Biometric Residence Permit (BRP) application routes already provide customers with a UKVI account, through which they can view their immigration status, update a variety of personal information and share their status with checking parties.
We are delivering the ability for existing leave holders and new flow applicants to create a UKVI account from April 2024. From this point we will begin contacting customers directly via email where possible, and will utilise a range of additional communication channels to inform customers of the need to take action to create an account before their BRP cards expire at the end of 2024. We will closely monitor take up of account creation to assess the effectiveness of our communications.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:21 am
by Jib123
Thank you all for your valuable input on this. This is very appreciated.
One more question, please.
Subject:inquiry Regarding Impact of Extended Stay Outside the UK on ILR or Visa Extension
I am writing to seek clarification regarding an aspect of my wife's visa status and its potential implications on her eligibility for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) or visa extension.
Specifically, my wife recently traveled to our home country for a holiday, where she has been residing for three months and fourteen days. While I understand that there are no specific restrictions imposed on the number of days she may stay outside the UK as per her visa conditions, I am reaching out to you to avail of your expertise and confirm if this prolonged absence may pose any challenges or concerns with regard to her future applications for ILR or visa extension.
Your guidance and insights on this matter would be immensely appreciated
Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I eagerly await your response.
Re: Naturalisation after completion of 3 years.?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:47 am
by contorted_svy
Is your query related to ILR/visa or British citizenship? The former are not discussed here.