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simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:22 am
by saguy1984
i recieved a simple caution in 2009 ,,recieved my ilr in 2014 and would like to apply for my citizenship but worried i will be rejected as i recieved a simple caution is 2009..is it worth applying? thanks
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:28 am
by contorted_svy
If that is your only run in with the law and you didn't receive a prison sentence, I would think that should be OK. Review the full good character guidance here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:42 pm
by saguy1984
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:09 am
by saguy1984
do you know how i can challenge the caution? it was 2009..i was young ..im 40 now..and i was also homeleess and i accepted it without even asking to look at the cctv...is there anyway i can see the details of it on file? thanks
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:32 am
by contorted_svy
I think it has been way too long for you to be able to challenge it now but as I explained a simple caution all this time ago is unlikely to affect your application if it is your only incident with the law.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:44 am
by saguy1984
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:32 am
I think it has been way too long for you to be able to challenge it now but as I explained a simple caution all this time ago is unlikely to affect your application if it is your only incident with the law.
yes
it has been
apart from me being a victim of a hate crime
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:57 am
by contorted_svy
That is unfortunate and I am sorry. You got past that and it won't affect your chances for naturalisation, hopefully this helps in dealing with this painful memory.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:02 am
by saguy1984
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:57 am
That is unfortunate and I am sorry. You got past that and it won't affect your chances for naturalisation, hopefully this helps in dealing with this painful memory.
thanks
have a good day
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:05 am
by saguy1984
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:57 am
That is unfortunate and I am sorry. You got past that and it won't affect your chances for naturalisation, hopefully this helps in dealing with this painful memory.
but i obviously say on my application that i have a simple caution?
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:36 am
by contorted_svy
Yes I would disclose and comment on how since then your life has changed and you haven't reoffended.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:56 am
by saguy1984
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:36 am
Yes I would disclose and comment on how since then your life has changed and you haven't reoffended.
if they reject my application because of the caution is it worth paying £1600 again or jsut living with residency forever instead of citizenship?
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:10 am
by AmazonianX
saguy1984 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:56 am
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:36 am
Yes I would disclose and comment on how since then your life has changed and you haven't reoffended.
if they reject my application because of the caution is it worth paying £1600 again or jsut living with residency forever instead of citizenship?
Be of the hope that it will not be rejected.
If unfortunately it is, decision on next step is yours to make.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:14 am
by alterhase58
In the end it's your choice - from your postings here it would appear that your offence wasn't a serious one, you are explaining everything upfront, from what we have seen here applicants with more and serious issues than yourself have been approved.
Difficult to see how you could be refused.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
by saguy1984
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:14 am
In the end it's your choice - from your postings here it would appear that your offence wasn't a serious one, you are explaining everything upfront, from what we have seen here applicants with more and serious issues than yourself have been approved.
Difficult to see how you could be refused.
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:42 am
by contorted_svy
I would say it happened so long ago and you haven't reoffended since that your chances of approval are pretty high - you didn't receive a custodial sentence which is more likely to be a deal breaker. It is your call what do here, we have seen some cases of applicants with criminal records more serious than yours who succeeded.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:44 am
by Ticktack
saguy1984 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:14 am
In the end it's your choice - from your postings here it would appear that your offence wasn't a serious one, you are explaining everything upfront, from what we have seen here applicants with more and serious issues than yourself have been approved.
Difficult to see how you could be refused.
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
It's been 15 years. I wouldn't lose sleep over that. Explain that in your application.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:46 am
by saguy1984
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:42 am
I would say it happened so long ago and you haven't reoffended since that your chances of approval are pretty high - you didn't receive a custodial sentence which is more likely to be a deal breaker. It is your call what do here, we have seen some cases of applicants with criminal records more serious than yours who succeeded.
i guess all i can do is try...
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:42 am
by vinny
saguy1984 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
Sounds like an accident.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:48 pm
by saguy1984
vinny wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:42 am
saguy1984 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
Sounds like an accident.
i just accepted the caution in 2009 and didnt even ask to look at the cctv at waterloo train station
is there any way i can challenge it after all this time or what should i do? i was also homeless at the time and was living with borderline personality disorder which i was only later diagnosed with
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:19 pm
by vinny
CAN I CHALLENGE A CAUTION AFTERWARDS?
Moreover, any cctv evidence is unlikely to exist now.
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:42 pm
by saguy1984
so there is no hope for me really?
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:50 pm
by vinny
Click on the above
link. If you really want to, then there’s probably no harm trying an
Application for expungement
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:53 pm
by saguy1984
vinny wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:50 pm
Click on the above
link. If you really want to, then there’s probably no harm trying an
Application for expungement
is it worth applying for british citizenship if i have a simple caution vinny?
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:59 pm
by vinny
Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:08 pm
by saguy1984
is 2009 too long ago to ask to get it deleted?