Page 1 of 2
Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:46 pm
by msx273
Dear Mods and Experts,
By the grace of almigty ALLAH, I got my ILR settled status through Tier 1 E 200k Route in October 2024.
I want to be prepared with documents and details neccesary to apply
Could please tell us the documents neeed to apply, I was filling the naturalisation application and have few questions in regards to it
My parents names are slightly different in my current passport , do i have to mention the correct name on naturalisation application or can I correct i while i apply for British passport ?
for Trips outside the UK, do I need to mention it since the grant of ILR or I need to mentioned all previous travels ?
Can I add my HO reference from ILR in the naturatlisation application form for caseworker to make his/her work easy ?
For Referee, is there any specific requiements ?
Thanks in advance
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:04 pm
by CR001
I want to be prepared with documents and details neccesary to apply
Obviously you don't qualify to apply yet.
Could please tell us the documents neeed to apply, I was filling the naturalisation application and have few questions in regards to it
Have you taken the time to read the Form AN Guidance Notes??
My parents names are slightly different in my current passport , do i have to mention the correct name on naturalisation application or can I correct i while i apply for British passport ?
Your parents names are irrelevant for naturalisation or passport application. Their names will NOT be in your British passport.
for Trips outside the UK, do I need to mention it since the grant of ILR or I need to mentioned all previous travels ?
Naturalisation is based on the 5 years immediately prior to date of application.
Can I add my HO reference from ILR in the naturatlisation application form for caseworker to make his/her work easy ?
You need to complete the form and put the information it asks for. It has nothing to do with 'making a caseworkers job easier'!! You either meet the requirements or you don't, it is as simple as that!!
For Referee, is there any specific requiements ?
Read the guidance notes!!
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:47 pm
by msx273
Thank yoy CR001,
Can you pleas give me the link of AN Guidance , since I got my ILR in 2024 october, im eligile to apply on November 2025 as long as i dont spend 90 days outside UK right
Thanks
CR001 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:04 pm
I want to be prepared with documents and details neccesary to apply
Obviously you don't qualify to apply yet.
Could please tell us the documents neeed to apply, I was filling the naturalisation application and have few questions in regards to it
Have you taken the time to read the Form AN Guidance Notes??
My parents names are slightly different in my current passport , do i have to mention the correct name on naturalisation application or can I correct i while i apply for British passport ?
Your parents names are irrelevant for naturalisation or passport application. Their names will NOT be in your British passport.
for Trips outside the UK, do I need to mention it since the grant of ILR or I need to mentioned all previous travels ?
Naturalisation is based on the 5 years immediately prior to date of application.
Can I add my HO reference from ILR in the naturatlisation application form for caseworker to make his/her work easy ?
You need to complete the form and put the information it asks for. It has nothing to do with 'making a caseworkers job easier'!! You either meet the requirements or you don't, it is as simple as that!!
For Referee, is there any specific requiements ?
Read the guidance notes!!
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:11 pm
by alterhase58
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:57 pm
by msx273
Thank you so much,
I will apply for fill the application and keep ready now and will submt around end of october 2025 whch I complete my 1 year
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:46 am
by msx273
Dear Mods and Experts,
Does My son under 18 and my wife have to wait for 1 year after getting ILR to apply for British citizenship or can they apply straight away after ILR as a child and spouse of British citizen ( Under me )
What would be correct form for naturalisation for them
Thanks
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:52 am
by alterhase58
Yes they can apply immediately.
Wife form AN online and
Adds child at the end of her application and system adjusts for form MN1.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:55 am
by CR001
msx273 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:46 am
Dear Mods and Experts,
Does My son under 18 and my wife have to wait for 1 year after getting ILR to apply for British citizenship or can they apply straight away after ILR as a child and spouse of British citizen ( Under me )
What would be correct form for naturalisation for them
Thanks
You are not British yet and can't even apply until October 2025 so unsure why you are asking this question now when you aren't anywhere near to becoming a British citizen.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:57 am
by msx273
For preperation , knowledge and unerstanding the process CR001
Thanks
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:55 am
msx273 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:46 am
Dear Mods and Experts,
Does My son under 18 and my wife have to wait for 1 year after getting ILR to apply for British citizenship or can they apply straight away after ILR as a child and spouse of British citizen ( Under me )
What would be correct form for naturalisation for them
Thanks
You are not British yet and can't even apply until October 2025 so unsure why you are asking this question now when you aren't anywhere near to becoming a British citizen.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:01 am
by CR001
Depends when your family qualifies for ILR and when you become British and whether your spouse meets the 3 year requirements for citizenship.
Citizenship applications can take up to 6 months, sometimes longer.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:50 pm
by msx273
We all came ot UK in Sep / Oct 2019 and living her continuously with less time spent outside UK
I was in Tier 1 E visa and my wife and son as my depdent.
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:01 am
Depends when your family qualifies for ILR and when you become British and whether your spouse meets the 3 year requirements for citizenship.
Citizenship applications can take up to 6 months, sometimes longer.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:54 pm
by CR001
Your route to ilr is completely irrelevant.
She can apply for citizenship without waiting 12 months on ILR if you are British and she meets all the requirements based on 3 years residence.
If they got ilr at the same time as you, then you can all apply for citizenship once you have held ilr for 12 months.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:25 pm
by msx273
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it
CR001 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:54 pm
Your route to ilr is completely irrelevant.
She can apply for citizenship without waiting 12 months on ILR if you are British and she meets all the requirements based on 3 years residence.
If they got ilr at the same time as you, then you can all apply for citizenship once you have held ilr for 12 months.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:20 pm
by lolo2
msx273 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:46 pm
I want to be prepared with documents and details neccesary to apply
Also for citizenship you don't need to submit the bunch of documents that you likely submitted for ILR or previous visas.
Naturalisation is not an immigration application, it's a very straightforward process with an online form that guides with simple and clear instructions. No need to attach a pile of documents or any extraordinary details.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:48 pm
by msx273
Thank you Lolo, much appreciated.
The important documets for citiezenship i see is referees.
I will use my previos shop landlord for one of the reference whom I know over 3 years and other I will have to find one
Thanks
lolo2 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:20 pm
msx273 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:46 pm
I want to be prepared with documents and details neccesary to apply
Also for citizenship you don't need to submit the bunch of documents that you likely submitted for ILR or previous visas.
Naturalisation is not an immigration application, it's a very straightforward process with an online form that guides with simple and clear instructions. No need to attach a pile of documents or any extraordinary details.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:49 am
by msx273
Dear Mods and Experts,
I breached the immigration law by doing extra hours of work on student visa and got deported 2010, now I have got ILR with all the history clearly explained to HO, will it have any effect on my BC application ??
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:52 pm
by contorted_svy
When did your situation become regular i.e. when did you get a valid visa after this happened?
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:57 pm
by msx273
Deported in 2010
Applied for visit visa on 2017 and 2018 and both got approved
Applied for tier 1 e on 2019 and entered uk in 2019
Got extension in July 2023
Got ILR in Oct 2024
I didn’t hide deportation or previous immigration history at any of my applications
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:52 pm
When did your situation become regular i.e. when did you get a valid visa after this happened?
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:26 pm
by contorted_svy
I would wait until 2027 when you obtained a valid visa again to return to the UK as deportation is quite a serious matter.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:13 pm
by msx273
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:26 pm
I would wait until 2027 when you obtained a valid visa again to return to the UK as deportation is quite a serious matter.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:19 pm
by msx273
I was deported 14 years ago and I never hid my immigration status in any uk applications
msx273 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:13 pm
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:26 pm
I would wait until 2027 when you obtained a valid visa again to return to the UK as deportation is quite a serious matter.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:49 pm
by contorted_svy
I am not entirely sure about this - however review the guidance
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Illegal entry
Where you are not disregarding immigration breaches relating to lawful residence, if
a person has previously entered the UK illegally, it will normally be appropriate to
refuse the application for citizenship if the illegal entry is confirmed as having
occurred during the preceding 10 years. If the date of entry cannot be confirmed, or if
the person subsequently goes to ground, or absconds, the period of 10 years starts
from the date on which the person last brought themselves to or came to the
attention of the Home Office.
Failure to comply with immigration requirements may be evidenced by service of a
notice of liability to administrative removal. The IS151A liability to administrative
removal notice was replaced on 6 April 2015 by a RED.0001 form, or where an application is also being refused at the same time, by a single decision notice which
incorporates a notice of liability to removal. However, given the length of residence
an applicant requires in order to apply for citizenship, IS151As will continue to be
relevant until early 2025. This can show that a person came to notice as someone
who breached the conditions of their leave, remained in the UK unlawfully without
leave, or entered the UK illegally. Relevant Home Office database records such as
Atlas, should be checked to see why the liability notice was served.
I am not entirely sure how to interpret the highlighted part above - to me the safest bet is to wait 10 years since you lawfully re entered but I could be wrong.
Note that most of the guidance specifically on deportation is classified so we don't have much input on how it is considered.
Regardless on when you apply I would make efforts to show that your character has changed - eg through volunteering in the community.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:18 pm
by msx273
Thank you so much
For now i dont need to arrange for any documents except two British referees right
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:49 pm
I am not entirely sure about this - however review the guidance
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Illegal entry
Where you are not disregarding immigration breaches relating to lawful residence, if
a person has previously entered the UK illegally, it will normally be appropriate to
refuse the application for citizenship if the illegal entry is confirmed as having
occurred during the preceding 10 years. If the date of entry cannot be confirmed, or if
the person subsequently goes to ground, or absconds, the period of 10 years starts
from the date on which the person last brought themselves to or came to the
attention of the Home Office.
Failure to comply with immigration requirements may be evidenced by service of a
notice of liability to administrative removal. The IS151A liability to administrative
removal notice was replaced on 6 April 2015 by a RED.0001 form, or where an application is also being refused at the same time, by a single decision notice which
incorporates a notice of liability to removal. However, given the length of residence
an applicant requires in order to apply for citizenship, IS151As will continue to be
relevant until early 2025. This can show that a person came to notice as someone
who breached the conditions of their leave, remained in the UK unlawfully without
leave, or entered the UK illegally. Relevant Home Office database records such as
Atlas, should be checked to see why the liability notice was served.
I am not entirely sure how to interpret the highlighted part above - to me the safest bet is to wait 10 years since you lawfully re entered but I could be wrong.
Note that most of the guidance specifically on deportation is classified so we don't have much input on how it is considered.
Regardless on when you apply I would make efforts to show that your character has changed - eg through volunteering in the community.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:41 pm
by contorted_svy
It depends on when you intend to apply. Referee declarations should be dated in the last month leading to the application.
Re: Preperation for Naturalisation application to become British Citizen
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:22 pm
by msx273
I got my ILR in October 2024 so Im planning to apply for naturalisation by October 2025 or few months after
So I just need referee declarations ?
contorted_svy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:41 pm
It depends on when you intend to apply. Referee declarations should be dated in the last month leading to the application.