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ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 02, 2025 1:14 am

Hi,

I am applying UK citizenship for my child who is year 8 students. One of the referee is the professional capacity related to my child. However, my child spend 18 months in primary school and another 18 months in the secondary school.

Therefore, could I find the class teacher or head teacher in her primary school? However, they only meet her in the first 18 months and haven't met her when she moved to secondary school. Is that still match the "knowing my child for 3 years" rules? Yes

Another question is: If they are not willing to be the referee (no reply), what can I do if I dont have any professional referee know her 3 years? (I can find some tutor who knows her for 2 years). Use a family friend who works in a professional role, this is a well known issue to UKVI.

Thanks for the help.

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:49 pm

Someone said get a bonafide certificate from school will be better if my child cannot find the teacher as referee. Should I get this from school? or Actually it is not a necessary doc?

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 1:39 pm

Hi, I am filling the MN1 form and some questions want to ask for help.



I use spouse visa come to UK and now this is the third year stay in UK and I will applying naturalisation after stayed for 5 years. I am helping my children apply UK citizenship registration.

Q1: Are either of the parents of the child (as stated in this application) applying for naturalisation as a British citizen on an AN form?

Should I answer Yes or No? (children mother (my wife) is BC, and I will apply naturalisation 2 years later but not now.

Q2. Have you had settlement in the UK?
I dont understand this question, is it mean have applicant received ILR status? They dont have ILR status as this is only 3 years in UK.

Q3. For the 5 years previous address. I have live in my friend home for only 2 weeks. Do I need to fill in ? If no, there will be 2 weeks period have no address?

Do I need to bring the grand parent passport for the application? (However, my wife father has died for long time, we dont have his passport and we only have the Cert of registration, is that enough?

Thanks

contorted_svy wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:33 pm

Can you clarify the following:
- was your child born in the UK? How old are they?
- is your wife a BC by descent from her father, whom you have the British citizenship certificate of naturalisation/registration?
- do you know what Section you are applying under for your child?

1. My child born outside UK
2. My wife is BC by descent from her father. We only have the citizenship certificate registration of her father but cannot find the passport. He passed away long time.
3. I think should be Section 3(5)? However, I cannot fill this information on online form.

My wife is BC by descent from her father. However, before the child born, both of us never live in UK before. However, my wife and us move to UK for 3 years now

Should I apply with Section 3(5) in this case?

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:03 pm

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:49 pm

Someone said get a bonafide certificate from school will be better if my child cannot find the teacher as referee. Should I get this from school? or Actually it is not a necessary doc?

That's not a "referee". UKVI are aware of the issue and will accept referees with other professions, if they know the child. Where did someone get this from, what certificate is this?

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:01 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:03 pm

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:49 pm

Someone said get a bonafide certificate from school will be better if my child cannot find the teacher as referee. Should I get this from school? or Actually it is not a necessary doc?

That's not a "referee". UKVI are aware of the issue and will accept referees with other professions, if they know the child. Where did someone get this from, what certificate is this?

sorry, it should be letter of school attendance. Is it doc needed for MN1?

Section 3(5)
To qualify under this section the child and their mother and father should have lived in the UK for a 3-year period ending with the date the application is received. And the child and their parents should be physically present in the UK or the qualifying British overseas territory at the start of that period.

If the child was born on or after 21 May 2002, the family can have been resident in a qualifying British overseas territory for the 3-year period.

The child and their parents must not have been absent from the UK (or the British overseas territories if appropriate) for more than 270 days during the 3-year residential period. There is no discretion to disregard absences greater than 270 days.

If the parents’ marriage or civil partnership has ended or they are legally separated, then only the child and one parent have to satisfy the residence requirement.

Both parents must consent to the child being registered as a British citizen. If one of the parents has died, then only the consent of the surviving parent is required.

A child registered under this section will be a British citizen otherwise than by descent, which means they can pass on citizenship to their own children.

Evidence required under section 3(5)
Applications under section 3(5) must be supported by the following evidence:

child’s full birth certificate showing parents’ details

evidence of the parent’s British citizenship by descent at the time of the child’s birth

if the claim is through the father and the child was born before 1 July 2006 the parents’ marriage certificate

passports or alternative evidence of residence for the children and the parents to confirm:

residence in the UK for 3 years immediately before the date of application

they had not been absent from the UK for more than 270 days in that 3-year period

if one of the parents has died, the death certificate for the deceased parent

if the parents’ marriage or civil partnership has ended in divorce, either:

the parents’ divorce certificate

a decree of nullity

evidence of dissolution of civil partnership

a decree of judicial separation

Parental consent for applications under 3(5)
Parental consent is a statutory requirement for registration under section 3(5). There is no discretion to waive this requirement. This means that you cannot register a child under section 3(5) unless both parents or one parent in the examples given in the evidence required section, have given their consent to the child’s registration, even if all other requirements are met. There is no exception to this rule.

The consent of the parents has to be given in writing and be signed. This requirement is met if the consent section of the form is completed by the parent or parents.

You must request consent where only one parent has given consent, and the consent of both parents is required.

If the appropriate consent cannot be obtained, you must consider an alternative route for citizenship.

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:04 pm

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf
YES
Is this the correct consent form link?

Also, which doc is need to proof 3 years residency for us and the children? For adults it's the passport - NO proof of residency needed for children.

Is it similar to FLR (M) to provide council tax bill/ bank statement / utilities bill for 6 different sources for these 3 years?
NO - for adults it's passport.
Also, which doc is needed to proof 3 years residency for children??
AS ABOVE
Thanks for the help

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:16 pm

ruudi82 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:04 pm

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf
YES
Is this the correct consent form link?

Also, which doc is need to proof 3 years residency for us and the children? For adults it's the passport - NO proof of residency needed for children.

Is it similar to FLR (M) to provide council tax bill/ bank statement / utilities bill for 6 different sources for these 3 years?
NO - for adults it's passport.
Also, which doc is needed to proof 3 years residency for children??
AS ABOVE
Thanks for the help

contorted_svy wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 10, 2025 10:33 pm

According to the guidance I quoted above, passports are suitable evidence of residence.