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hello guys i need help on those question please ...!!!!!

how can somebody count his entry and exit stamp from the uk ...????

some of the entry to the UK didn't have stamps ....

some stamps are on each other ..so you cant see ...

I'm sure that i didn't spend more then i should in the last five years ...and no more then 90 days in the last year before naturalisation ...so will it affect my application ..???

how precise should i be ...!!!!

would the NCS point something on this ...!!!!i have many stamps and visas on my passport ...where sometimes...in country where i travel to ... don't stamp in or out ...


any help please ...as m trying to get this sorted ....how the home office ..will be 100% sure about the entry and exit dates ????

its just confusing me ...we use to travel ...for weekends break or bank holidays ...or on my work holidays ..which never exceed 60 days a year for the last 5 years maybe less ...

i need a answer from you guys ...and your experiences on the NCS .....thank you very much

hope to hear from you soon ..!!!!

Hi joelondon,

You must have had to submit this information for your ILR as well. In my case, the NCS spent more time on calculating exits and entries than anything else as I had quite a few trips as well.

I built my record based on passport stamps. I had maintained a detailed working of this since I had been in the UK maintaining a spreadsheet of each stamp on the passport by passport page number. That spreadsheet was submitted as part of my ILR application and was very helpful in speeding up the check with the NCS.

Suggest you go through page by page of your passport as a start and develop your travel history. The departure and arrival days do not count, but even day trips have to be declared.

A bit of a pain I agree, but suggest you do the hard work now rather than get caught out in the NCS.

Regards - Spartac

Spartac wrote:Hi joelondon,

You must have had to submit this information for your ILR as well. In my case, the NCS spent more time on calculating exits and entries than anything else as I had quite a few trips as well.

I built my record based on passport stamps. I had maintained a detailed working of this since I had been in the UK maintaining a spreadsheet of each stamp on the passport by passport page number. That spreadsheet was submitted as part of my ILR application and was very helpful in speeding up the check with the NCS.

Suggest you go through page by page of your passport as a start and develop your travel history. The departure and arrival days do not count, but even day trips have to be declared.

A bit of a pain I agree, but suggest you do the hard work now rather than get caught out in the NCS.

Regards - Spartac

yeah m doing this ..i started ...but some of them are confusing or you cant see ...what about ..when you didn't get an entry stamp for example ...how can you show this ???? how can i get my travel record ...>???? and what do u mean by the NCS spent more time on calculating exits and entries than anything else as I had quite a few trips as well.????

m not on the ILR ...m a permanent resident ...PR holder ...!!!!!

so when i applied to get my PR ...there were no question like this ...about the time spent outside ...

EEA Regulations do not allow IOs to stamp passports of residence or permanent residence card holders. This obviously means that the NCS cannot rely on the dates in the passport.

I think if you can't find some of the stamps then you can provide some alternate supporting docs like employer letters for the qualifying duration or tenancy/council tax docs on your name etc.....

86ti wrote:EEA Regulations do not allow IOs to stamp passports of residence or permanent residence card holders. This obviously means that the NCS cannot rely on the dates in the passport.

The passport of a Commonwealth citizen with the right of abode is also not stamped when the holder enters or leaves the UK. Moreover, these days no passport is generally stamped when the holder leaves (as oppose to enters) the UK, and a whole run of entry stamps doesn't really tell anyone very much. As 86ti says, the Home Office does not rely entirely on passport stamps.

I think you need to make a good effort to put down all the dates that you were out of the UK during the qualifying period. You also need to supply evidence that you have been here — living — such as pay slips, employer letters, letter from the tax people saying that you have paid income tax or National Insurance or whatever, Council Tax records and so on.

86ti wrote:EEA Regulations do not allow IOs to stamp passports of residence or permanent residence card holders. This obviously means that the NCS cannot rely on the dates in the passport.

that sound good ..and helpful...as i can figure out the days i spent outside ...but some of the entry stamps are not on my passport ...meanwhile i'm sending p60 and a letter of all my previous employee ...and letter from the Inland revenue tax work history which will show that i have paid taxes and national insurance contribution ...some pay slip from my actual job with p60 of this year which i will get it by the end of April .... and my life in the UK test certificate ...bank statement for the last 6 month ...hope this will be enough ...please advise me if i need more things ...as m making my self ready ...by the way ...will the NCS WILL GO OK WITH THAT ...???

If you have your airline (or train or ship) tickets still, you may use that to show when you left and returned to the UK.

Ray

raymasa2 wrote:If you have your airline (or train or ship) tickets still, you may use that to show when you left and returned to the UK.

Ray

well is not that easy ...i dont think i can get hold of those things

86ti wrote:EEA Regulations do not allow IOs to stamp passports of residence or permanent residence card holders. This obviously means that the NCS cannot rely on the dates in the passport.

is there any other way how NCS or UKBA can check absences from UK ? Does they have any computerised database of entries/exit of UK ? I think no ! Because I am EEA national and everytime I left UK - nobody checked my passport - only on check-in and on gate, airport staff checked if name on passport is same as name on ticket. I think nobody knows about absences from UK and especialy of EEA national persons. Thats why from EEA nationals for naturalization purposes UKBA recquire to provide P60s, confirmation from employer etc. But I dont have to be right, its just my opinion, repair me if someone has better knowledges.

dekabox wrote:

86ti wrote:EEA Regulations do not allow IOs to stamp passports of residence or permanent residence card holders. This obviously means that the NCS cannot rely on the dates in the passport.

is there any other way how NCS or UKBA can check absences from UK ? Does they have any computerised database of entries/exit of UK ? I think no ! Because I am EEA national and everytime I left UK - nobody checked my passport - only on check-in and on gate, airport staff checked if name on passport is same as name on ticket. I think nobody knows about absences from UK and especialy of EEA national persons. Thats why from EEA nationals for naturalization purposes UKBA recquire to provide P60s, confirmation from employer etc. But I dont have to be right, its just my opinion, repair me if someone has better knowledges.

i believe that its not possible as for EEA AND NON-EEA FAMILLY MEMBERS ...well ..dunno if i'm 100% right