Naturalisation with child born in UK before ILR

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:17 pm

My son (19 months) was born before ILR and now we all have ILR and ready to apply for citizenship (on completing 5 years) except my wife (she still have few months to complete 3 years).
After reading alot this is what i've found:

- I'll be applying on AN form with Â£836 fee (5 years residency)

- My son will be applying on MN1 form with Â£570 fee (UK born with settled parents)

In total its hell lot of money especially my wife will also be paying Â£836 in Jan,12

Question: Is there a way we can both apply ina joint application hence paying less fee?

Regards
Faraz

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:41 pm

You can wait until your wife complete 5 years although by then joint applications price might increase to the same level as two single applications today....

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:44 pm

I knew there's no way but wasn't sure, of course i'm not doing that otherwise i woudn't ask this question now.

vinny · Post by **vinny** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:17 am

farazfastian wrote:she still have few months to complete 3 years

Wait a few months.

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:10 am

Victoria wrote:Actually, you can apply together, with the reduced fee, and request that the main applicants is considered first. But as John has said, your wife has to have been here three years at the date of application.

Would that actually work? As the main applicant is not British until he attends the ceremony.
Did someone in the forum (or the other one you linked to) been successful in do so? Would save money in many cases.

vinny · Post by **vinny** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:14 am

Victoria stated that her clients had succeeded.

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:09 am

Thanks for that vinny! this is what i was after. I know Homeoffice do consider logical cases but it varies and sometime doesn't work for all.

So say i wait till January and then i go to NCS, will they take my case on this basis and how can i specify to CW to consider my case first and then treat my wife case on the result of mine?

Just confirming, above will make my and wife app joint i.e. paying reduced fee of Â£1294 but i'll be still applying for my son separately on MN1 Â£570, right?

Many Thanks,
Faraz

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:43 am

Just spoke to HomeOffice Nationality contact centre and they said you can't do it as on the day of application you're not British Citizen so it won't work.

Also spoke to immigration agent he said yes you can do a joint application in January.

I'm really confused now!

vinny · Post by **vinny** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:43 pm

It appears to be an undocumented discretion.

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:35 am

Its risky as it all depends on case worker but worth trying for, as its not just the money you'll save but also time and effort in doing to doing two separate applications.

I'll wait till Jaunary and apply for all the family together with a covering letter explaining the situation.

Regards
Faraz

hsmp_victory · Post by **hsmp_victory** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:15 am

Hi Faraz,
I applied for BC in March 2011 along with my 1 year child born in UK through NCS service, and they clearly told me your wife cannot apply for BC till she completes 5 years in UK. But she can apply for BC after 3 years as a wife/partner of BC. She will be completing 3 years in UK in September 2011 and i am attending the Ceremony on 13th July 2011(coming Wednesday) only then i will be a British Citizen.
I could have saved a hell lot of money had I applied together, but it is a risk.
Now it is clear you cannot apply together since you are not yet a British Citizen. You only have ILR. I would suggest not to take a risk. You may be trying to save a few hundred pounds and end up losing a lot more.
And you are assuming you might get a case worker who would "understand" your situation. They are trying to tighten the immigration and you can guess what chances you have.

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:19 pm

I agree and i know there are cases where here they've done it but its very risky.
I would have gone for it if there was a way to apply in person as at least in that case i could have explain to them in detail but via post its all down to case worker.

Yes instead of saving around Â£400 i'll lose Â£900 if it doesn't work.

farazfastian · Post by **farazfastian** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:23 pm

Another update: Just called almost 8-10 different OICS consultants and they all said you can't do that. You should make two separate applications one for yourself and another one for your wife in Jan,12.

Another thing, i couldn't find any one on the board who has done the same.

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Naturalisation with child born in UK before ILR

Naturalisation with child born in UK before ILR