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The passport application form has the following clause "If both parents were born after 31st December 1982, OR we born abroad, we also need the full name, town, country, date of birth and marriage of your grandparents, (or details of your parents claim to British nationality). Write these details in section 8, or on a separate sheet of paper.

Does this question apply to those of us who're applying on the basis of a naturalisation certificate?; I don't really know my grandparents married and dates of births - my parents don't have this information either. Also, may parents are naturalised british citizens, would attaching their passport copies be sufficient to clear this?.

Also, for my son, who is 4 yrs of age, would attaching copies of our naturalisation certificates be sufficient for this clause.

Lastly, and I'm sure I'm over-analysing this, do they mean maternal AND paternal grand parents or just one set would do ??

ILR_Applicant_UK wrote:Does this question apply to those of us who're applying on the basis of a naturalisation certificate?

Yes (parent or grandparent details), if you obtained British nationality through your parents / grandparent). No (parent / grandparent details), if you obtained British citizenship through a route other than parents / ancestry (e.g. - economic migrants).

Include details of the parent(s) of the applicant, if the parent(s) is born abroad - even if parent(s) is not a British citizen.

Likewise for your child's application.

Thanks Sushed - I got mine through 5 yr work permit + 1 yr ILR. My wife an son applied as dependents.

We'll all get our naturalisation certificates after the oath ceremony - would that be enough proof for the three of us, or should I send copies of my parents' passports who happen to be British through naturalisation as well?.

Riz

Self - Mention details of parent(s) if they were born abroad. Provide date of naturalisation if the form asks for (their) date of acquiring British citizenship.
Child - Mention your and your spouse's details if you were born abroad. Provide date(s) of naturalisation for each parent.
Spouse - Mention details of parent(s) if they were born abroad. If they too are British citizens, provide date(s) of acquiring naturalisation if the form asks for it.

No need to provide details of paternal / maternal grandparents in any of the three applications. Details of grandparents is to be filled in only if one has acquired citizenship through ancestry.

And because neither you or your spouse have acquired British citizenship through your respective parents there is no need to send copy of (either your or your spouse's) parents passport(s).

Your minor child has acquired British citizenship through you (parent), so if the form / guidance asks that evidence of parents British citizenship be included, include naturalisation certificate(s) as appropriate.

Please note that if you apply using Post Office C&S service, they might insist on filling in that section in the form anyway (although not needed). In that case, either provide the information (or write unknown) or they might ask you to sign that you will not ask for a fee refund if application is rejected (basically, they just want to cover themselves).

any idea wht to wirte about the issue of nat certificate.

is that the name of concil or city or just home office london for example i live in glasgow and mine cermon y will b held by glasgow city council so what should i write plz if any one have any inf to share thanks.

regards
nazia

Write what the naturalisation states - Home Office London

sushdmehta wrote:Home Office.

ok thanks but they ask place of issue not the athourty so still need to put home office is that right. did you put that on ur form with no problem.

Who issues the naturalisation certificate? Home Office or Council?

Sushed,

Thanks for your detailed response. One final query - the passport application requires all original documentation.

Since I'll be sending my naturalisation certificate for my passport application, and the wife for hers... would a copy be OK for my son's application?.

Regards.

sushdmehta wrote:Who issues the naturalisation certificate? Home Office or Council?

home office.....you are right its homeoffice but he question is the place of issue. i was just confused thats why asking thanks anyway.

ILR_Applicant_UK wrote:Sushed,

Thanks for your detailed response. One final query - the passport application requires all original documentation.

Since I'll be sending my naturalisation certificate for my passport application, and the wife for hers... would a copy be OK for my son's application?.

Regards.

Just put all three applications in one big envelope.

Nazia88 wrote:

sushdmehta wrote:Who issues the naturalisation certificate? Home Office or Council?

home office.....you are right its homeoffice but he question is the place of issue. i was just confused thats why asking thanks anyway.

The question is there mainly for cases in which the certificate was issued outside the UK.

Jambo wrote:

Nazia88 wrote:

sushdmehta wrote:Who issues the naturalisation certificate? Home Office or Council?

home office.....you are right its homeoffice but he question is the place of issue. i was just confused thats why asking thanks anyway.

The question is there mainly for cases in which the certificate was issued outside the UK.

ok so it means i should write HOME OFFICE LONDON even its issued in glasgow.

Well, I don't have your certificate in front of me... - what does it say on it?
If it says Home Office London - put that. If it says something else, put that. I don't think the council name appears on the certificate itself.

Anyway, if you already sent it to IPS, don't worry. I don't think they will reject the application because of it (now that you are a British citizen, you will find that IPS handles you much nicer than the HO).

Jambo wrote:Well, I don't have your certificate in front of me... - what does it say on it?
If it says Home Office London - put that. If it says something else, put that. I don't think the council name appears on the certificate itself.

Anyway, if you already sent it to IPS, don't worry. I don't think they will reject the application because of it (now that you are a British citizen, you will find that IPS handles you much nicer than the HO).

thank you for your time, i havnt sent my application yet i am going to send next wednesday after my cermony i havnt got my certificate yet i was just filling the form and woundering anyway thanks.

Right,

Update time - just got back from the post office.

Had spent the last 2 days filling and re-filling forms as I found in trying to be too careful, I was ending up making mistakes and having to re-start on a blank form again.

Anyway, went armed with three fully completed, countersigned forms to Post Office one. Presented my wife's form, and the lady at the counter checked everything, and then said you have to go back and fill a new form, cos everything is OK, but the counter signatory hasn't put her full name, instead of xxx yyyy zzzz he had put xxxx zzzz, leaving out her middle name. I said, this can't be serious, this is all part of 1 form where her name in all its fullness is written on page 1, the signatory is not confirming he knows her full name ,he is confirming he knows the person, if you want I can sign a bit of paper sayin I was explained this risk and I accept it, or can I correct the name myself - she goes no, this has to be filled by the countersignatory. She was actually very rude and goes, you know, if you want, you can just put them in an envelope yourself if thats how you want it, I do these every day so I know I'm right, I said you're just being awkward and took all my papers away and drove over to another Post office.

PO 2 was a better experience - he didn't have a problem with my passport or the wife's, with the same form that PO 1 had refused. However, my son;s form had a couple of problems. First, he had an issue with the photographs - he said the guidance from IPS is a cream or grey background; yours is too light. I said these were taken at Jessop's over the weekend, and they chanrge 9.99 for 6 prints and confirmed the pics meet the IPS requirements, so I'm not about to go back and start all over again. The guy was reasonable and said we can send it; IPS may get back to you. I was find, however, again, came up with a problem with the signatory, for a minor, the countersignatory is supposed to put the parent's name instead of the child; my friend had put my son's name instead . I Said can I tippex it, and the guy said no, you can't use any tippex on these forms . So, I took back my son's form;given his is not an adult passport, I can actually apply for it through the expedited service.

In terms of documentation, they returned our birth certificates, said didn't need them. I had put my marriage certificate with my form and a copy with the wife's form; he said you don't need marriage certificates at all, but then thought it over and put the original marriage certificate with my wife's form.