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Thanks for your response. You mentioned I overstayed from June to November 2022, but my visa expired in July 2022, and I submitted my new visa application in August 2022— after about a month of its expiry. I delayed applying because I was waiting for my ATAS certificate, which I had explained in email reply to HO in September.zimba wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:14 amYou overstayed between June 2022 and November 2022 as you did NOT have any lawful residence in the UK in that period and you were not under section 3C. The correct approach should have been leaving the UK before visa expiry in June 2022, getting ATAS and then applying to return. Staying in the UK and overstaying was a mistake.
Given you got a valid SKW visa in November 2022 and also applied for a new visa within 14 days of its expiry (so benefiting from Paragraph 39E), then you can count that whole period since November 2022 towards your 3 years under the GTV rules for ILR. So you will be eligible within 28 days of completing your 3 years, which will be early November 2025.
Your overstaying period could potentially have an adverse effect on your nationality application though in the future.
Sorry that was a typo then -- I did apply on July. I see your point on how the delay could affect my eligibility but I had a guess that they might have taken into account my ATAS application waiting. For the SAR, I've mentionned above in the main question that I requested previously my SAR from the Home Office, and that it's written “Probable Overstayer” under the Exit Checks Event History referring to the application delay gap. However, under the Global Talent visa eligibility requirement section, it states:zimba wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:16 pmYou mentioned your visa expired in June 2022 above, that is why I said since June. If your visa expired in July 2022 then you were an overstayer between the expiry date of your visa between July 2022 and until you got a new visa approval. You made an out-of-time application meaning you applied one month into being an overstayer. UKVI normally does not accept an out-of-time application if it is more than 14 days of you becoming an overstayer, however they can exercise discretion if choose to. However, that does not mean that the period of overstaying magically becomes lawful because they accepted an out-of-time application. This is common knowledge.
You can request your immigration data by applying for an SAR: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... mmigration
I suggest reading the official guide on application from overstayers: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... accessibleThe submission or consideration of an application within the 14-day period set out in paragraph 39E does not mean the migrant’s previous permission and the conditions that were attached to that permission are either re-instated or extended. Therefore, an applicant without valid permission at the point they submit their application continues to be an overstayer from the point their permission expired and throughout the period their application is pending.
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Discretion
Caseworkers may be able to exercise discretion under exceptional or compassionate circumstances where the application was submitted after the 14-day period set out in paragraph 39E. For example, where an individual was unable to apply to extend their stay in the UK due to a serious illness or a medical condition that went beyond 14- days.
If a caseworker decides to use discretion it must be authorised by a caseworker at Higher Executive Officer (HEO) grade or above.
In these circumstances a caseworker must grant permission under the rules, with the same duration and conditions as a normal grant of permission under the rules attached to it. The decision letter must be clear that permission is being granted because the migrant met all other requirements of the route, and the caseworker has accepted there were exceptional circumstances which prevented the applicant from making an in-time application.
Ok, thanks again for the explanation. So based on this I guess I should wait until Nov before applying for ILR as you have said. Which will then mean I'll have to wait for 2 other years to apply for citizenship (instead of applying next year). Do you think my citizenship will be affected by this overstay record? if yes, could you explain how ?zimba wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:11 pmYou were an overstayer without any valid leave and just because the UKVI exercised discretion or the fact that you had an excuse, does not mean such a period magically turns into lawful residence. That is not how the immigration rules work. Also, just having a previous overstaying does not necessary becomes a ground for refusal under the GTV rules. UKVI has already taken your overstaying into account and chose to apply discretion. The fact that you got visa later does not change anything. No lawyer is going to tell you anything other than that as this is basic understanding of the immigration rules.
I suggest reading the official guide on application from overstayers: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... accessibleThe submission or consideration of an application within the 14-day period set out in paragraph 39E does not mean the migrant’s previous permission and the conditions that were attached to that permission are either re-instated or extended. Therefore, an applicant without valid permission at the point they submit their application continues to be an overstayer from the point their permission expired and throughout the period their application is pending.
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Discretion
Caseworkers may be able to exercise discretion under exceptional or compassionate circumstances where the application was submitted after the 14-day period set out in paragraph 39E. For example, where an individual was unable to apply to extend their stay in the UK due to a serious illness or a medical condition that went beyond 14- days.
If a caseworker decides to use discretion it must be authorised by a caseworker at Higher Executive Officer (HEO) grade or above.
In these circumstances a caseworker must grant permission under the rules, with the same duration and conditions as a normal grant of permission under the rules attached to it. The decision letter must be clear that permission is being granted because the migrant met all other requirements of the route, and the caseworker has accepted there were exceptional circumstances which prevented the applicant from making an in-time application.