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PR Days Clarifications

Post by anandh79 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:32 am

Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008


2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)

4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0

since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

Regards
Anandh.B

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Re: PR Days Clarifications

Post by seba » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:04 pm

anandh79 wrote:Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008

Yes Correct.

2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.


---29th Apr 2012 will fall under only on Year 1. There is no duplicated dates in any 5 years. 29 apr 2012 is added in year 1 only. same date is added in year 2 for 2011 in all other years too. You are over looked I guess :)

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)

---Yes you are right.
4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0
since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

---As long as the day is not a whole day, you can disregard that day

Regards
Anandh.B

anandh79
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Re: PR Days Clarifications

Post by anandh79 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:32 pm

seba wrote:
anandh79 wrote:Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008

Yes Correct.

2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.


---29th Apr 2012 will fall under only on Year 1. There is no duplicated dates in any 5 years. 29 apr 2012 is added in year 1 only. same date is added in year 2 for 2011 in all other years too. You are over looked I guess :)

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)

---Yes you are right.
4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0
since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

---As long as the day is not a whole day, you can disregard that day

Regards
Anandh.B
Hi Seba,

Assuming if i take a holiday on 29th april, i need to add 1 for year 1 and also for year 2 since year 2 also ends at 30th april 2012. Am i right in pointing out this?

anandh79
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Re: PR Days Clarifications

Post by anandh79 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:35 pm

anandh79 wrote:
seba wrote:
anandh79 wrote:Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008

Yes Correct.

2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.


---29th Apr 2012 will fall under only on Year 1. There is no duplicated dates in any 5 years. 29 apr 2012 is added in year 1 only. same date is added in year 2 for 2011 in all other years too. You are over looked I guess :)

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)

---Yes you are right.
4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0
since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

---As long as the day is not a whole day, you can disregard that day

Regards
Anandh.B
Hi Seba,

Assuming if i take a holiday on 29th april, i need to add 1 for year 1 and also for year 2 since year 2 also ends at 30th april 2012. Am i right in pointing out this?
Hi Seba,

What do you mean by whole day?

If i start early morning 4:00 and return next day midnight around 11:00, does it mean more than 24 hours i was outside of uk even though technically i was in uk on both these dates. Should i still take it or not?

Regarda
Anandh

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Re: PR Days Clarifications

Post by db83 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:10 pm

anandh79 wrote:Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008

It should be 30 April 2013 to 1 May 2012...and so on..
Your question isn't valid


2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)


4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0

Yes

since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

Regards
Anandh.B
I'm just trying to help !

anandh79
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Posts: 205
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:12 pm

Re: PR Days Clarifications

Post by anandh79 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:59 am

db83 wrote:
anandh79 wrote:Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008

It should be 30 April 2013 to 1 May 2012...and so on..
Your question isn't valid


2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)


4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0

Yes

since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

Regards
Anandh.B
Hello DB

Am bit confused,

should i treat it as 1 day absence or 0 day

4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0

Yes

db83
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Location: Mars

Re: PR Days Clarifications

Post by db83 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:17 am

anandh79 wrote:
db83 wrote:
anandh79 wrote:Hi,

My appointment is at 30th of April and would like to clarify the dates and continuous period requirement

Clarifications.

1. Please confirm whether my periods are correct with respect to application dates
Year1 30-Apr-13 to 29-April 2012
Year2 30-Apr-12 to 29-April 2011
Year3 30-Apr-11 to 29-April 2010
Year4 30-Apr-10 to 29-April 2009
Year5 30-Apr-09 to 29-April 2008

It should be 30 April 2013 to 1 May 2012...and so on..
Your question isn't valid


2. My second query is assuming I have taken holiday on 29th April 2012, does it mean I need to take into account on

both Year 1 and Year 2 since 29th April falls on both of these years. It is bit confusing why they have added 29th

April2012 on year1 and year 2 and similarly for other years.

3.For year 5, I was away between 07/04/2008 to 06/06/2008. Should i just take the leaves only between 29/04/2008 to

06/06/2008. (Silly question though, but just for assurance)


4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0

Yes

since i came back within one day rather than same day. If i dont need to take this into account, should i still mention in the absence sheet.

Regards
Anandh.B
Hello DB

Am bit confused,

should i treat it as 1 day absence or 0 day

4. I went outside of uk on 23/04/2009 and returned back on uk to 24/04/2009. Should i count this as 1 holiday or 0

Yes
0
I'm just trying to help !

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Post by seba » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:19 am

In one particular day, if you are not out of uk 24hrs that day can be disregarded. The days your are out of UK should be covering 24hrs in any particular date.

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Post by db83 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:26 am

seba wrote:In one particular day, if you are not out of uk 24hrs that day can be disregarded. The days your are out of UK should be covering 24hrs in any particular date.
This is how absences are counted...See UKBA guidance...

The specified continuous period is counted backwards from the date of the ILR application. For example, if the date of application is 11 November 2012, the consecutive periods would be as follows:
Year 1 - 11 November 2012 to 10 November 2011
Year 2 - 11 November 2011 to 10 November 2010
Year 3 - 11 November 2010 to 10 November 2009
Year 4 - 11 November 2009 to 10 November 2008
Year 5 - 11 November 2008 to 10 November 2007

Absences are counted in "whole days". Day(s) of departure and arrival are not to be included when calculating (total) days of absence. Bank / public holidays and weekends are to be included in absences if one was absent from UK on such days.
I'm just trying to help !

anandh79
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Posts: 205
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:12 pm

Post by anandh79 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:25 am

db83 wrote:
seba wrote:In one particular day, if you are not out of uk 24hrs that day can be disregarded. The days your are out of UK should be covering 24hrs in any particular date.
This is how absences are counted...See UKBA guidance...

The specified continuous period is counted backwards from the date of the ILR application. For example, if the date of application is 11 November 2012, the consecutive periods would be as follows:
Year 1 - 11 November 2012 to 10 November 2011
Year 2 - 11 November 2011 to 10 November 2010
Year 3 - 11 November 2010 to 10 November 2009
Year 4 - 11 November 2009 to 10 November 2008
Year 5 - 11 November 2008 to 10 November 2007

Absences are counted in "whole days". Day(s) of departure and arrival are not to be included when calculating (total) days of absence. Bank / public holidays and weekends are to be included in absences if one was absent from UK on such days.
Hi Db

As per your reply if one was absent on 10 november 2011, do they need to include this on year 1 and year 2 since 10th november also appears on year 2 when you specify the range between 11 nov-2011 to 10-nov-2010

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Post by db83 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:32 am

anandh79 wrote:
db83 wrote:
seba wrote:In one particular day, if you are not out of uk 24hrs that day can be disregarded. The days your are out of UK should be covering 24hrs in any particular date.
This is how absences are counted...See UKBA guidance...

The specified continuous period is counted backwards from the date of the ILR application. For example, if the date of application is 11 November 2012, the consecutive periods would be as follows:
Year 1 - 11 November 2012 to 10 November 2011
Year 2 - 11 November 2011 to 10 November 2010
Year 3 - 11 November 2010 to 10 November 2009
Year 4 - 11 November 2009 to 10 November 2008
Year 5 - 11 November 2008 to 10 November 2007

Absences are counted in "whole days". Day(s) of departure and arrival are not to be included when calculating (total) days of absence. Bank / public holidays and weekends are to be included in absences if one was absent from UK on such days.
Hi Db

As per your reply if one was absent on 10 november 2011, do they need to include this on year 1 and year 2 since 10th november also appears on year 2 when you specify the range between 11 nov-2011 to 10-nov-2010
Sorry that was a Typos when I entered the date range as I picked it up from FAQs section of this forum. A date will come only once in every year.
I wouldnt really bother too much into it as while filling the absences you would still fill all the absences together in the application form without breaking it year by year.
I'm just trying to help !

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