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SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:01 am
by LaPra
Hello there,

I will soon be appearing for my settlement visa via premium service on 8th Nov 2017. I am applying in the SET(m) category as I came through the FLR(M) route.

When I was filling the SET(M) form it asks for a SELT Ref. No. to prove English language capability. For my previous 2 FLR(m) visas that lead up to this SET(M), I have proven English language requirement through the PBS system and via my Bachelor’s degree certificates(from India) that clearly state Medium of instruction as English. I have not obtained any NARIC certificate.

But when I checked the guidance notes for this via the link in the SET(M) form(https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... LL-v19.pdf), it states the highlighted part in the below table taken from this page.

Does this therefore mean that I will not need a statement from the UK NARIC for my SET(m) application (or) will I still need this? Please could you clarify at the earliest, so that I can take the necessary action quickly.


Knowledge of language and life in the UK
Degree qualifications About this guidance Who needs knowledge of language and life Meeting requirements Life in the UK test Speaking and listening requirement False documents Meeting requirement after 15 years in the UK: indefinite leave Recording outcomes on CID Refusal wording
This page tells you how a person can meet the speaking and listening part of the knowledge of language and life in the UK (KoLL) requirement by having a degree taught in English.
They must also have passed the Life in the UK test, see related link.
They do not need to show a formal speaking and listening qualification. The qualification must be academic (not vocational or professional) and deemed by UK National Academic Recognition Information Centre (NARIC) to meet the recognised standard of a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree or PhD in the UK and to have been taught in English or delivered in a majority English language speaking country (excluding Canada).
Before 6 April 2016, a PBS online points calculator printout, showing 10 points has been awarded for English language could be submitted, together with the original degree certificate, to satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language and Life in the UK (KOLL) requirement.
The points based calculator was turned off on 6 April 2016. An official statement from UK NARIC must be obtained before applying. Further information is provided on www.naric.org.uk/visasandnationality.
If we have previously accepted a degree qualification as meeting the requirements for an earlier application, and leave was granted, we will not need additional confirmation from NARIC. If the qualification has not previously been used for an immigration application, or the previous application was refused, the applicant must obtain confirmation from NARIC that it meets the relevant criteria.
Degrees obtained in the UK are acceptable without UK NARIC assessment.
If the applicant has a degree that was taught or researched in a majority English speaking country (excluding Canada) they must provide:
Related links Speaking and Listening requirement B1 level test English-speaking countries Diplomas Life in the UK test
External links Appendix KoLL of the Immigration Rules Appendix O of the Immigration Rules Naturalisation requirements

Your clarification will be of great help to me - Thanks!

Re: SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:26 am
by LaPra
Hello - Please I am in urgent need of this clarification as I have only 3 weeks to my visa appointment and if I need to gather more documentation, then I will need to do that now. Please help! Many Thanks!

Re: SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:34 pm
by iworker
its your choice if you want to risk such a big amount solely on account that u have got away last time.
i know i would get the naric if i were in your place.
or just give an ielts, which should be super easy for settlement requirement.

Re: SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:27 pm
by LaPra
thanks for your response @iworker - Just to explain I didn't get away last time - I actually did the points based system scored 10 and submitted my degree documents alongside this and this was accepted for 2 Immigration visa rounds prior to the settlement. I don't want to risk it which is why I am asking people who may know to consider the guidance actually given by UKBA and ask if it's right. But I'd rather not waste more money than I have to.

Re: SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:05 pm
by CR001
£150 for NARIC ELA vs possibly losing £2,287 for ILR postal for failing to meet the English requirement :idea:

Re: SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:15 am
by LaPra
So based on above replies, I understand that even though there are contradictory statements in the guidance notes for this, no one is really sure on whether we require the NARIC certificate for people who didn't require this for earlier applications. I have also sought legal services and they also think the wordings are highly contradictory. I wish someone who has applied recently can clarify!

Re: SET(M)- Bachelor degree taught in English - KOLL requirement- query

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:54 am
by mrsgrnwd
LaPra wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:15 am
So based on above replies, I understand that even though there are contradictory statements in the guidance notes for this, no one is really sure on whether we require the NARIC certificate for people who didn't require this for earlier applications. I have also sought legal services and they also think the wordings are highly contradictory. I wish someone who has applied recently can clarify!
Hi LaPra, I'm now having the same query as you RE: whether NARIC is necessary if non-UK uni degree has been accepted in previous two FLR(M) applications. What did you decide to do in the end? Did you successfully receive your ILR? I hope you did. I'd be grateful if you'd shed some light based on your experience. Many thanks!