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Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:11 pm
by natsha
HI All,
I got my Tier 1E Extension yesterday now I have very imp question.
Applied on 01/1/2017
Fee deducted 05/01/2017
Bio metric Letter Received 12/03/2017.
Bio metric submitted 20/03/2017
Complex Letter: 20/6/17
Online status: Still awaiting decision (even today)
IHS partial refund not received
BRP Received 03/11/2017
Document Received 05/11/17.
I have keep my 3 job during my application HO. NOW confused about job creation for ILR, I need to create two more job after approved 1/11/2017? or can i claim point during my application 1/1/2017 to 05/11/2017 9 months?
Thanks.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:14 pm
by zimba
Only the employment periods after extension approval count towards ILR
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:14 pm
by marcnath
You need to have the equivalent of two full time jobs after the grant of your extension - i.e. after 1/11/17 or whatever the date on your BRP is.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:21 pm
by natsha
Thanks for answer.
Can I create 4 jobs for 6 month? Because my first approval was on brp 10-april-2014. Applied in march 2014.
Thanks
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:25 pm
by zimba
Yes. The Tier 1E guide says:
If you successfully applied to enter the route before 6 April 2014, and you are making an extension application or a settlement application, you may continue to employ (and score points for job creation):
• one worker for 24 months;
• one worker for 6 months and one for 18 months;
• 4 workers for 6 months each.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:44 am
by 10020132
zimba88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:14 pm
Only the employment periods after extension approval count towards ILR
Correct me if I am wrong as I don't agree with you
What I think is that your employment requirement hours are NOT counted after extension rather they are counted backwards for two years before you completing 5 years on your visa
So assuming his original visa started on 1Jan 2014, then he can apply for ILR on 1Jan2019 ans hence his last two years for employment will be counted from 1 Jan2017 onwards
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:43 am
by marcnath
10020132 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:44 am
zimba88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:14 pm
Only the employment periods after extension approval count towards ILR
Correct me if I am wrong as I don't agree with you
What I think is that your employment requirement hours are NOT counted after extension rather they are counted backwards for two years before you completing 5 years on your visa
So assuming his original visa started on 1Jan 2014, then he can apply for ILR on 1Jan2019 ans hence his last two years for employment will be counted from 1 Jan2017 onwards
You are wrong.
The rules are clear that it is job created AFTER the last grant.
Please provide any reference from the immigration rules or guidance that supports your approach, if you have that.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:48 am
by zimba
10020132 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:44 am
zimba88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:14 pm
Only the employment periods after extension approval count towards ILR
Correct me if I am wrong as I don't agree with you
What I think is that your employment requirement hours are NOT counted after extension rather they are counted backwards for two years before you completing 5 years on your visa
So assuming his original visa started on 1Jan 2014, then he can apply for ILR on 1Jan2019 ans hence his last two years for employment will be counted from 1 Jan2017 onwards
Where do you get this backwards counting from ?? There is no such rule.
In
appendix A of immigrations rules under table 6, it very clearly says that the job creation requirement always applies to
the most recent period of the leave:
Where the applicant’s last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have existed for at least 12 months during the most recent grant of leave.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:49 pm
by Hassan Rasheed
I want to correct Zimba and other friends on this forum,Please read at ILR application form Set (O) version 10/2017 Page40. Read below paragraph explain you exact requirement for 2job creation.
''Part B - Created two full time equivalent posts
During your period of leave as an Tier 1 (Entrepreneur), you must have created 2 full time jobs for 12 months each across your business(es). If you created 2 jobs in your initial application, you may use these jobs to claim points for settlement, if they were maintained for at least 12 months during your extension period of leave. Alternatively, if the jobs you created during your initial period of leave no longer exist, you can create 2 more in your extension period of leave, and claim points for them, if they exist for at least 12 months''
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:43 am
by zimba
Hassan Rasheed wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:49 pm
I want to correct Zimba and other friends on this forum,Please read at ILR application form Set (O) version 10/2017 Page40. Read below paragraph explain you exact requirement for 2job creation.
''Part B - Created two full time equivalent posts
During your period of leave as an Tier 1 (Entrepreneur), you must have created 2 full time jobs for 12 months each across your business(es). If you created 2 jobs in your initial application, you may use these jobs to claim points for settlement, if they were maintained for at least 12 months during your extension period of leave. Alternatively, if the jobs you created during your initial period of leave no longer exist, you can create 2 more in your extension period of leave, and claim points for them, if they exist for at least 12 months''
You are not correcting anything. How is what it says on the form contradicts with what I said above ?!
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm
by PeterLove2008
Hassan Rasheed wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:49 pm
I want to correct Zimba and other friends on this forum,Please read at ILR application form Set (O) version 10/2017 Page40. Read below paragraph explain you exact requirement for 2job creation.
''Part B - Created two full time equivalent posts
During your period of leave as an Tier 1 (Entrepreneur), you must have created 2 full time jobs for 12 months each across your business(es). If you created 2 jobs in your initial application, you may use these jobs to claim points for settlement, if they were maintained for at least 12 months during your extension period of leave. Alternatively, if the jobs you created during your initial period of leave no longer exist, you can create 2 more in your extension period of leave, and claim points for them, if they exist for at least 12 months''
Sumba88 was right. The key word from above quote is “ during your extension period of leave”.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:13 pm
by zimba
From 11 Jan 2018, you can include the time spent waiting for extension ONLY AND ONLY IF you were granted extension less than 12 months from the date of your ILR application.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:13 am
by Ali7770
zimba88 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:13 pm
From 11 Jan 2018, you can include the time spent waiting for extension ONLY AND ONLY IF you were granted extension less than 12 months from the date of your ILR application.
hello Zimba88.
hope you doing good.
still confusing me the statement "
less than 12 months"
what does it mean? they are giving us 2 years extension. so why less than 12 months.
sorry to ask again.
thanks
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:48 am
by marcnath
Ali7770 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:13 am
zimba88 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:13 pm
From 11 Jan 2018, you can include the time spent waiting for extension ONLY AND ONLY IF you were granted extension less than 12 months from the date of your ILR application.
hello Zimba88.
hope you doing good.
still confusing me the statement "
less than 12 months"
what does it mean? they are giving us 2 years extension. so why less than 12 months.
sorry to ask again.
thanks
The period of the extension grant is 2 years.
..granted extension less than 12 months from the date of your ILR application..
You misunderstood Zimba's post.
The 12 months refer to time
between the date of extension grant
and the ILR application date. This period is almost always less than two years.
Re: Job Creation For ILR
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:10 am
by Ali7770
marcnath wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:48 am
Ali7770 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:13 am
zimba88 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:13 pm
From 11 Jan 2018, you can include the time spent waiting for extension ONLY AND ONLY IF you were granted extension less than 12 months from the date of your ILR application.
hello Zimba88.
hope you doing good.
still confusing me the statement "
less than 12 months"
what does it mean? they are giving us 2 years extension. so why less than 12 months.
sorry to ask again.
thanks
The period of the extension grant is 2 years.
..granted extension less than 12 months from the date of your ILR application..
You misunderstood Zimba's post.
The 12 months refer to time
between the date of extension grant
and the ILR application date. This period is almost always less than two years.
Hello Marcnath.
Thanks for clarification.
I understand now.
God bless you
Regards