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Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:25 am
by Skeleton
Hi respected members

I’m not sure if making a thread is right for asking my questions. Apologize in advance if it’s wrong


I’m holding tier 1 ent visa and if I want to get through accelerate route by hiring 10 full time job what should I do to fulfil it.

Got the visa on 31/07/2015 and entered on 2/08/2015 and will expires on 30/11/2018.

I have hired 2 employees in June 2017 and 1 in December 2017 for my trading company.

I joined to an existing company in December 2017 (owner is British) with 8 employees.
Will my joined existing business’s employees counted as part of my 10 full job employees?

However, I know the investment won’t be counted as part of 200k, just wondering about job creation and getting its points?

I highly appreciate if you could guide me
Best regards

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:52 am
by marcnath
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:25 am
I’m not sure if making a thread is right for asking my questions. Apologize in advance if it’s wrong
Yes, that is the right way of doing it for your 1st questions. For any future ones, keep to this thread and not create new ones.
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:25 am
I’m holding tier 1 ent visa and if I want to get through accelerate route by hiring 10 full time job what should I do to fulfil it.

Got the visa on 31/07/2015 and entered on 2/08/2015 and will expires on 30/11/2018.

I have hired 2 employees in June 2017 and 1 in December 2017 for my trading company.

I joined to an existing company in December 2017 (owner is British) with 8 employees.
Will my joined existing business’s employees counted as part of my 10 full job employees?
No, you need 8 ADDITIONAL jobs created after you joined the business.
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:25 am
However, I know the investment won’t be counted as part of 200k, just wondering about job creation and getting its points?
Now sure why you say that. The investment can be counted as part of your 200K if it was invested into the business and not paid to existing owner

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:17 am
by Skeleton
I appreciate.
So if I started new business in this feb with 7 employees(+ previous 3), can I claim for the point?
As from feb to the end of nov just 10 months
?

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:31 am
by marcnath
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:17 am
I appreciate.
So if I started new business in this feb with 7 employees(+ previous 3), can I claim for the point?
As from feb to the end of nov just 10 months
?
No, you can't do that either now. The jobs should have lasted 12 months each.

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:37 am
by Skeleton
Can I apply then in January next year so I can have them for 12 month?
My visa expire in nov this year.

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:44 am
by marcnath
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:37 am
Can I apply then in January next year so I can have them for 12 month?
My visa expire in nov this year.
In theory, you could apply for extension in November and vary that application to ILR in january (if it has not been decided by then)

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:47 am
by Skeleton
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:44 am
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:37 am
Can I apply then in January next year so I can have them for 12 month?
My visa expire in nov this year.
In theory, you could apply for extension in November and vary that application to ILR in january (if it has not been decided by then)
(Just in case) how about if already been decided ?

On the other hand, can’t I be lawful overstayor for two months?

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:50 am
by marcnath
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:47 am
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:44 am
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:37 am
Can I apply then in January next year so I can have them for 12 month?
My visa expire in nov this year.
In theory, you could apply for extension in November and vary that application to ILR in january (if it has not been decided by then)
(Just in case) how about if already been decided ?

On the other hand, can’t I be lawful overstayor for two months?
If it is decided, you would have got a letter from them

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:54 am
by Skeleton
Thank you for your patience by my questions

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:24 am
by CR001
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:47 am
(Just in case) how about if already been decided ?

On the other hand, can’t I be lawful overstayor for two months?
No, you cannot be a 'lawful overstayer for two months'. There is such concept as 'lawful overstayer'. You are 'unlawful' if you have no valid leave to remain and you will not be able to apply for ILR as you must have a valid visa or Section 3C protection to apply for ILR.

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:30 am
by seasky
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:47 am
marcnath wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:44 am
Skeleton wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:37 am
Can I apply then in January next year so I can have them for 12 month?
My visa expire in nov this year.
In theory, you could apply for extension in November and vary that application to ILR in january (if it has not been decided by then)
(Just in case) how about if already been decided ?

On the other hand, can’t I be lawful overstayor for two months?
If it is decided you are still fine, just in the extension period and can either apply for ILR after 2 years or if you still employ 10 people (TBC new ones not from original business you joined) then you can apply for accelerated ILR after one year.

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:48 am
by Skeleton
Hi

An other question just got into my head.

If I have invested in second company other than mine, should I be the director in the second company too to claim for job creation points?


Thanks

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:07 am
by zimba
You do not need to be an investor in a business to claim employment however to claim any points for employment, you must have been the director of such business throughout the employment period. Also If you join/take over a business, you need to show a NET increase of employment and not simply job creation.

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:38 pm
by Skeleton
zimba88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:07 am
You do not need to be an investor in a business to claim employment however to claim any points for employment, you must have been the director of such business throughout the employment period. Also If you join/take over a business, you need to show a NET increase of employment and not simply job creation.
By joining a business, should I be the director of that company or could be shareholder too to claim any points?

Re: Tier -1-entrepreneur job creation accelerated ilr in 3 yrs

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:06 pm
by zimba
I said 'Director' very clearly