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Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:38 pm
by munsey
Hello everyone,

I have submitted my online application for ILR (5 years on Tier 2 General) and have my appointment on 9th Friday (with the "new" system where docs can be uploaded online before the appointment).

One of the documents that I needed to submit was:
"Declaration signed by Mr XXX to confirm consent for the Home Office to request verification checks"

However, there was no such consent page in my application (I remember it was there in the paper-based application form which is no longer available). There's just a declaration:

"By sending this application, you confirm that to the best of your knowledge and belief the following is correct:
- the information relating to the application
- the supporting documents
- the photograph is an accurate likeness"

which doesn't say anything about "consent for verification".

I found the following form: https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf
Is that the one I need to submit (I am applying alone with no dependents)?

I tried calling UKVI. Their response was that "it should be there in the online application form itself".

So I am really not sure if I needed to submit anything for this.

Thanks in advance!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:13 pm
by bruteforce
If it was an online application then you do not need to worry about that as you couldn't add or delete any page on your own in the first place.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 pm
by munsey
Hi bruteforce ,

Thanks for the response. I was just worried as it's explicitly mentioned as a supporting document to be submitted.

So PART1 of this form https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf isn't necessary? Or is it still OK to sign & submit it as well?

Thanks!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:40 pm
by michali
If it were me, I would probably fill it in and upload . Maybe attach a note to explain why?

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:42 pm
by Djsuccess
munsey wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:38 pm
Hello everyone,

I have submitted my online application for ILR (5 years on Tier 2 General) and have my appointment on 9th Friday (with the "new" system where docs can be uploaded online before the appointment).

One of the documents that I needed to submit was:
"Declaration signed by Mr XXX to confirm consent for the Home Office to request verification checks"

However, there was no such consent page in my application (I remember it was there in the paper-based application form which is no longer available). There's just a declaration:

"By sending this application, you confirm that to the best of your knowledge and belief the following is correct:
- the information relating to the application
- the supporting documents
- the photograph is an accurate likeness"

which doesn't say anything about "consent for verification".

I found the following form: https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf
Is that the one I need to submit (I am applying alone with no dependents)?

I tried calling UKVI. Their response was that "it should be there in the online application form itself".

So I am really not sure if I needed to submit anything for this.

Thanks in advance!
There is a link to download the consent form while you were completing the application (I guess you missed it), The link should also have been provided after you have submitted. You need to submit the consent form

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:40 pm
by munsey
Thanks Djsuccess!

I must have missed it. I found that consent form when I google about it! I'll fill & submit the PART1 then as I am a single applicant with dependants.

I have two more questions.

1. There's another document required for:
"For the period before you were granted leave as a Tier 2 migrant, documents showing that you met the relevant requirements of the immigration rules. For further information concerning the evidence required, please refer to the Tier 2 migrant policy guidance on our website".

Prior to Tier 2 General, I was on PSW and before that, I was on Tier 4 General student visa. I believe I can show student visa stamp page in my passport for the latter but what I can use for PSW? Because I don't have the copy of that BRP card (during PSW).

2. Document for "Evidence of Mr XXX immigration status in the UK". I thought this would be the BRP card but then the form lists "Current Biometric Residence Permit" just below another document required. So what evidence they're expecting for "Evidence of Mr XXX immigration status in the UK""?

Thanks!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:14 pm
by munsey
Hello,

I have another question. One of my former employers refused to provide an absence letter. They still provided a letter confirming my employment. The letter they gave was:
"For your assistance, I am writing to confirm that Mr XXX joined the company on 31
March 2014 and left on 5 February 2016. Mr XXX was employed on a full time basis
with a 37 hour working week. The last position held by Mr XXX was Engineer II in the xxxxxx
organisation. Mr XXX last salary on record was GBP XYZ.

The employee originally transferred to the Company as result of a Merger & Acquisition and, for
contractual continuity, the employee’s period of continuous employment commenced on 6 August 2012.

Standard holiday entitlement for UK employees is 25 days per year. It is company policy not to provide
any information on absences.

Please do not hesitate to contact me on PHONE NUMBER if I can be of any further assistance."

The following were my absences with when I was working for them:

Date left Date returned
22 Nov 2013 - 25 Nov 2013
29 Dec 2013 - 25 Jan 2014
30 Aug 2014 - 2 Spet 2014
8 Jan 2015 - 27 Jan 2015
22 May 2015 - 31 May 2015
15 Oct 2015 - 29 Oct 2015


I am going to write a cover letter as well. In addition, I plan to provide:

- The above letter from them
- Travel ticket copies
- Copies of passport pages' copies
- Employment history from HMRC

As noted above, I have absent for a total of 39 days (which exceeds the 30 day discretion limit). Although, it was actually taken across two "holiday years" of the company. Is this going to be an issue?

Please suggest anything I can do to improve my case.

I have my ILR appointment on 9th Nov (in 2 days!), so I'd be very grateful if anyone can help me soon.


Thanks!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:27 pm
by munsey
Minor clarification to previous post:
>> As noted above, I have absent for a total of 39 days (which exceeds the 30 day discretion limit).

I was referring to absences in 2015. I meant to say "As noted above, I have absent for a total of 39 days in 2015 (which exceeds the 30 day discretion limit). "

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:42 pm
by Djsuccess
munsey wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:40 pm
Thanks Djsuccess!

I must have missed it. I found that consent form when I google about it! I'll fill & submit the PART1 then as I am a single applicant with dependants.

I have two more questions.

1. There's another document required for:
"For the period before you were granted leave as a Tier 2 migrant, documents showing that you met the relevant requirements of the immigration rules. For further information concerning the evidence required, please refer to the Tier 2 migrant policy guidance on our website".

Prior to Tier 2 General, I was on PSW and before that, I was on Tier 4 General student visa. I believe I can show student visa stamp page in my passport for the latter but what I can use for PSW? Because I don't have the copy of that BRP card (during PSW).
This question is majorly for those combining Tier 1 or other tiers with Tier 2 to make up the 5 years. As I have always advised people, you provide your UK degree as the evidence.

2. Document for "Evidence of Mr XXX immigration status in the UK". I thought this would be the BRP card but then the form lists "Current Biometric Residence Permit" just below another document required. So what evidence they're expecting for "Evidence of Mr XXX immigration status in the UK""?

it sounds like duplication to me because your BRP is your evidence of immigration status. so go ahead and provide your BRP for both questions.

Thanks!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:51 pm
by munsey
Thanks again Djsuccess.

Any suggestion for my other question (re. lack of absence letter for one of the employers)?

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:52 pm
by Djsuccess
munsey wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:14 pm
Hello,

I have another question. One of my former employers refused to provide an absence letter. They still provided a letter confirming my employment. The letter they gave was:
"For your assistance, I am writing to confirm that Mr XXX joined the company on 31
March 2014 and left on 5 February 2016. Mr XXX was employed on a full time basis
with a 37 hour working week. The last position held by Mr XXX was Engineer II in the xxxxxxx
organisation. Mr XXX last salary on record was GBP XYZ.

The employee originally transferred to the Company as result of a Merger & Acquisition and, for
contractual continuity, the employee’s period of continuous employment commenced on 6 August 2012.

Standard holiday entitlement for UK employees is 25 days per year. It is company policy not to provide
any information on absences.

Please do not hesitate to contact me on PHONE NUMBER if I can be of any further assistance."

The following were my absences with when I was working for them:

Date left Date returned
22 Nov 2013 - 25 Nov 2013
29 Dec 2013 - 25 Jan 2014
30 Aug 2014 - 2 Spet 2014
8 Jan 2015 - 27 Jan 2015
22 May 2015 - 31 May 2015
15 Oct 2015 - 29 Oct 2015


I am going to write a cover letter as well. In addition, I plan to provide:

- The above letter from them
- Travel ticket copies
- Copies of passport pages' copies
- Employment history from HMRC

As noted above, I have absent for a total of 39 days (which exceeds the 30 day discretion limit). Although, it was actually taken across two "holiday years" of the company. Is this going to be an issue?

Please suggest anything I can do to improve my case.

I have my ILR appointment on 9th Nov (in 2 days!), so I'd be very grateful if anyone can help me soon.


Thanks!

You should be fine. If it's not too late now, I will suggest you ask your previous employer to confirm all your paid annual leave when you were with them. Your absences would have fallen into the paid annual leave, which you can then explain in the cover letter. However, if that's not possible, I guess you should be fine with the cover letter and all the evidence you want to provide. All the best

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:55 pm
by munsey
" I will suggest you ask your previous employer to confirm all your paid annual leave when you were with them". I asked that but they refused to state that. Instead they stated "Standard holiday entitlement for UK employees is 25 days per year. It is company policy not to provide any information on absences".

Thanks again!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:59 pm
by Djsuccess
munsey wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:55 pm
" I will suggest you ask your previous employer to confirm all your paid annual leave when you were with them". I asked that but they refused to state that. Instead they stated "Standard holiday entitlement for UK employees is 25 days per year. It is company policy not to provide any information on absences".

Thanks again!
In that case, you will submit the letter as it is and also add your cover letter with all the evidence as you are planning to do.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:17 pm
by munsey
Thanks. I'll do that.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:43 am
by O_o
munsey wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:17 pm
Thanks. I'll do that.
Hi Munsey,

Kindly share details of how it went, anything we need to be aware of, etc. I also plan on using the new service (no more appointment days available for 45 days..)

Thanks,
O_o

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:06 pm
by Djsuccess
munsey wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:38 pm
Hello everyone,

I have submitted my online application for ILR (5 years on Tier 2 General) and have my appointment on 9th Friday (with the "new" system where docs can be uploaded online before the appointment).

One of the documents that I needed to submit was:
"Declaration signed by Mr XXX to confirm consent for the Home Office to request verification checks"

However, there was no such consent page in my application (I remember it was there in the paper-based application form which is no longer available). There's just a declaration:

"By sending this application, you confirm that to the best of your knowledge and belief the following is correct:
- the information relating to the application
- the supporting documents
- the photograph is an accurate likeness"

which doesn't say anything about "consent for verification".

I found the following form: https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf
Is that the one I need to submit (I am applying alone with no dependents)?

I tried calling UKVI. Their response was that "it should be there in the online application form itself".

So I am really not sure if I needed to submit anything for this.

Thanks in advance!
Hello,

How did your appointment go on Friday? You are about the first person on this forum to use the new system. We are all waiting for your feedback. Did you do super priority? If yes, Have gotten your decision?
How was the experience in general?

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 am
by munsey
Hello,

It was a HORRIBLE experience with UKVCAS (not to be confused with UKVI).

Half of the biometric scanners didn't work. They set up their "office" in the corner of the Manchester Central library (among the bookshelves!) with no place to sit (people were just sitting on the floor and seats they could find in the library). So my (and everyone else's) appointment was delayed by 4 hrs!!!

Finally, I went in and gave my biometrics... and, their paper scanners didn't work either. So couldn't upload docs - luckily I had some backup in my laptop that I took there and I uploaded docs myself at the appointment (imagine sitting on the floor in a library with 50 other people, taking out my
laptop, connecting to my phone for internet, and uploading docs via a terribly slow internet connection, etc). The reason I didn't upload docs beforehand was they were very blurred and thought they'd have better scanners - obviously, I was wrong). The good news is that I could still upload docs later after getting home until 22.00 on the same day i.e., after the appointment.

UKVCAS provide services like "document scanning", "document checking" with additional cost. They are useless. They just say something like "looks alright" which you could very well check yourself (I wasted £35 there). Similarly, UKVCAS helpline is totally useless as well - their only answer to any question is "we don't know; you'll have to contact UKVI" (but they charge £2.50 per minute!).

I was supposed to get an email on Friday confirming my biometric was enrolled but never received it.

I got an email from Home Office on Monday (yesterday) noon that my ILR was granted (with BRP and approval letter to be posted later).

The process at the appointment is:

1. Give your biometric.

2. Upload docs & submit the application to UKVI.

3. The decision usually within 24 hrs (weekends don't count) of giving biometric for super priority service (this depends on the type of service you chose).

My suggestion:

Upload ALL the docs *before* the appointment and be done with it (you still have to take original docs to the appointment. No need to take photocopies of docs or passport photos). Don't spend a single penny on UKVCAS services/helpline phones (they're not UKVI and their "services" have no value or use & total crap anyway). Just give your biometrics at the appointment with UKVCAS. It took me about 40 mins at the appointment. But if they fix their biometric scanners, paper scanners, etc and if you upload all the docs before the appointment, it should all be over within 10 mins.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:00 am
by charmy244
munsey wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 am
Hello,

It was a HORRIBLE experience with UKVCAS (not to be confused with UKVI).

Half of the biometric scanners didn't work. They set up their "office" in the corner of the Manchester Central library (among the bookshelves!) with no place to sit (people were just sitting on the floor and seats they could find in the library). So my (and everyone else's) appointment was delayed by 4 hrs!!!

Finally, I went in and gave my biometrics... and, their paper scanners didn't work either. So couldn't upload docs - luckily I had some backup in my laptop that I took there and I uploaded docs myself at the appointment (imagine sitting on the floor in a library with 50 other people, taking out my
laptop, connecting to my phone for internet, and uploading docs via a terribly slow internet connection, etc). The reason I didn't upload docs beforehand was they were very blurred and thought they'd have better scanners - obviously, I was wrong). The good news is that I could still upload docs later after getting home until 22.00 on the same day i.e., after the appointment.

UKVCAS provide services like "document scanning", "document checking" with additional cost. They are useless. They just say something like "looks alright" which you could very well check yourself (I wasted £35 there). Similarly, UKVCAS helpline is totally useless as well - their only answer to any question is "we don't know; you'll have to contact UKVI" (but they charge £2.50 per minute!).

I was supposed to get an email on Friday confirming my biometric was enrolled but never received it.

I got an email from Home Office on Monday (yesterday) noon that my ILR was granted (with BRP and approval letter to be posted later).

The process at the appointment is:

1. Give your biometric.

2. Upload docs & submit the application to UKVI.

3. The decision usually within 24 hrs (weekends don't count) of giving biometric for super priority service (this depends on the type of service you chose).

My suggestion:

Upload ALL the docs *before* the appointment and be done with it (you still have to take original docs to the appointment. No need to take photocopies of docs or passport photos). Don't spend a single penny on UKVCAS services/helpline phones (they're not UKVI and their "services" have no value or use & total crap anyway). Just give your biometrics at the appointment with UKVCAS. It took me about 40 mins at the appointment. But if they fix their biometric scanners, paper scanners, etc and if you upload all the docs before the appointment, it should all be over within 10 mins.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I need to apply for ILR in january in Manchester and now I know not to choose their documents scanning and uploading services.

I still have one question, Did you upload all of your documents in Pdf or Jpeg format? And did you submit all of the scanned page for water/electricity bills or just first page?

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:10 am
by munsey
>> I still have one question, Did you upload all of your documents in Pdf or Jpeg format?

I uploaded pdfs (but you can upload jpeg too - they're allowed by UKVCAS).

>> And did you submit all of the scanned page for water/electricity bills or just first page?

I submitted all pages of electricity/water bills. But I don't think they were really needed. But it doesn't hurt. You can upload any additional document you want (there's no restriction on the number of docs). Just make sure you don't upload too many unnecessary/irrelevant docs and confuse the caseworker!

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:25 pm
by Djsuccess
munsey wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 am
Hello,

It was a HORRIBLE experience with UKVCAS (not to be confused with UKVI).

Half of the biometric scanners didn't work. They set up their "office" in the corner of the Manchester Central library (among the bookshelves!) with no place to sit (people were just sitting on the floor and seats they could find in the library). So my (and everyone else's) appointment was delayed by 4 hrs!!!

Finally, I went in and gave my biometrics... and, their paper scanners didn't work either. So couldn't upload docs - luckily I had some backup in my laptop that I took there and I uploaded docs myself at the appointment (imagine sitting on the floor in a library with 50 other people, taking out my
laptop, connecting to my phone for internet, and uploading docs via a terribly slow internet connection, etc). The reason I didn't upload docs beforehand was they were very blurred and thought they'd have better scanners - obviously, I was wrong). The good news is that I could still upload docs later after getting home until 22.00 on the same day i.e., after the appointment.

UKVCAS provide services like "document scanning", "document checking" with additional cost. They are useless. They just say something like "looks alright" which you could very well check yourself (I wasted £35 there). Similarly, UKVCAS helpline is totally useless as well - their only answer to any question is "we don't know; you'll have to contact UKVI" (but they charge £2.50 per minute!).

I was supposed to get an email on Friday confirming my biometric was enrolled but never received it.

I got an email from Home Office on Monday (yesterday) noon that my ILR was granted (with BRP and approval letter to be posted later).

The process at the appointment is:

1. Give your biometric.

2. Upload docs & submit the application to UKVI.

3. The decision usually within 24 hrs (weekends don't count) of giving biometric for super priority service (this depends on the type of service you chose).

My suggestion:

Upload ALL the docs *before* the appointment and be done with it (you still have to take original docs to the appointment. No need to take photocopies of docs or passport photos). Don't spend a single penny on UKVCAS services/helpline phones (they're not UKVI and their "services" have no value or use & total crap anyway). Just give your biometrics at the appointment with UKVCAS. It took me about 40 mins at the appointment. But if they fix their biometric scanners, paper scanners, etc and if you upload all the docs before the appointment, it should all be over within 10 mins.
Thank you for the feedback. Very useful. It further confirms what I have been saying here for the past few days that Sopra Steria has no power and cannot help in any way. The only thing they do is biometrics and documents check. Nothing more.
Thanks for also confirming that you got the decision the next working day.

Congratulations.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:39 pm
by Akorotaeva
Thanks for sharing your experiences.

How much did you pay in total (visa fees + super priority fees)?

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:04 pm
by CULLINAN
@munsey

Congratulations!

Please can you let me know the following:

1) Did you upload all the pages of the passports (new and old?) for absenses evidence? I have like 6 passports. Would I need to upload all?

2) Once you upload the documents, does the system give you option to view the documents?

3) I read in some other threads where some members were having difficulty uploading the “mandatory” documents. Does the system indicate the mandatory and optional documents clearly? Did you encounter and difficulty uploading? Like is there any maximum file size of a pdf or jpeg?

Thank you

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:32 pm
by munsey
>> How much did you pay in total (visa fees + super priority fees)?

£3018 in total (excluding the £35 I paid for the useless "document checking").

>> 1) Did you upload all the pages of the passports (new and old?) for absenses evidence? I have like 6 passports. Would I need to upload all?

I had 2 passports and uploaded all pages because I didn't have absence letter from one of my former employers (so I wrote a cover letter & submitted all pages as evidence to show the dates I was out of the UK). Otherwise, it's probably enough to upload first & last pages of old passports (Only relevant if your old passports have any stamps that during your qualification period. E.g., in the last 5 years for Tier 2 General to ILR). Your application should list what's required(when you complete it).

>> 2) Once you upload the documents, does the system give you option to view the documents?

No. That was really annoying! You can see what you have uploaded but not download it or see its content. Just a list of docs you uploaded.

>> 3) I read in some other threads where some members were having difficulty uploading the “mandatory” documents. Does the system indicate the mandatory and optional documents clearly? Did you encounter and difficulty uploading? Like is there any maximum file size of a pdf or jpeg?

I didn't have any difficulties. Max size per file is 6MB. But there's no limit on the number of files.

Their site does list sections like "mandatory", "optional", "finance", "proof of business", "education", etc. But it doesn't list all docs I needed to submit. That's a generic list of sections for ALL types of visa applications and has no direct relation to your *specific* application (so you may have more or less docs to be uploaded). It really doesn't matter (you can even upload ALL your supporting docs in the "mandatory" section if you like). You don't need to uploads docs for every section. You only need to submit what's listed in your application form (and checklist). I didn't upload anything for few sections.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:41 pm
by CULLINAN
Thank you for your detailed response. Much appreciated.

Re: Consent form ILR online application

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:01 pm
by munsey
Hello,

Does anyone know how to contact a mod or admin here? I am trying to remove some sensitive info from some posts and if I click the "!" (report icon next to the post) it says can't connect to the "https://app.php/post/" site.

The FAQ page says "contact the moderator" a number of times yet doesn't say how ;-) I'd avoid randomly "pinging" some moderator in an unrelated post if possible.

Thanks.