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PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:42 pm
by MJony
Hi,
Please help me here on couple of issue where i am not sure.
Going to apply for my wife's ILR application using SET(O), she is PBS dependent on tier 2 general route. I become british citizen in the meantime. She does not work in UK and totally dependent on me.
1. As this is a solo application, does she need to provide cohibition documents ?
2. Do i(main Tier 2 migrant) need to send/show my bank statement. It never ask for the statements anywhere in the application.
3. In the documents section, there is two question which i am not sure at all.
A. "Is the account with a bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation held jointly by you and other people?" -- yes/no ??
B. "Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?" -- yes/no??
thanks in advance
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:16 pm
by seagul
MJony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:42 pm
Hi,
Please help me here on couple of issue where i am not sure.
Going to apply for my wife's ILR application using SET(O), she is PBS dependent on tier 2 general route. I become british citizen in the meantime. She does not work in UK and totally dependent on me.
1. As this is a solo application, does she need to provide cohibition documents ?
2. Do i(main Tier 2 migrant) need to send/show my bank statement. It never ask for the statements anywhere in the application.
3. In the documents section, there is two question which i am not sure at all.
A. "Is the account with a bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation held jointly by you and other people?" -- yes/no ??
B. "Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?" -- yes/no??
thanks in advance
Assuming you had secured settlement (ILR) not through long residence:
1. Yes cohabitation evidences would still be required from at least 3 sources covering the last 2 years with even gaps of 3-4 months. These can be in joint or individual names.
2. Not for maintenance but can be attached for fulfilling cohabitation requirement.
3. First consent form is signed by applicant whereas sponsor sign on 2nd and 3rd is marked as n/a.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:42 pm
by MJony
Thank you so much for your help i really appreciate it
seagul wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:16 pm
MJony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:42 pm
Hi,
Please help me here on couple of issue where i am not sure.
Going to apply for my wife's ILR application using SET(O), she is PBS dependent on tier 2 general route. I become british citizen in the meantime. She does not work in UK and totally dependent on me.
1. As this is a solo application, does she need to provide cohibition documents ?
2. Do i(main Tier 2 migrant) need to send/show my bank statement. It never ask for the statements anywhere in the application.
3. In the documents section, there is two question which i am not sure at all.
A. "Is the account with a bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation held jointly by you and other people?" -- yes/no ??
B. "Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?" -- yes/no??
thanks in advance
Assuming you had secured settlement (ILR) not through long residence:
CORRECT
1. Yes cohabitation evidences would still be required from at least 3 sources covering the last 2 years with even gaps of 3-4 months. These can be in joint or individual names.
2. Not for maintenance but can be attached for fulfilling cohabitation requirement.
3. First consent form is signed by applicant whereas sponsor sign on 2nd and 3rd is marked as n/a.
We dont have joined bank account but utility bills are jointly named.
Sorry but may be i could not explain my point(3). In point(3) both 3.A and 3.B, there is option(radio button) to chose Yes or No. And this is where i am confused what to chose(Yes or No)
3.A. Think it can be yes as we have joint utility
3.B. Honestly have no clue what is this question is all about ??
Please advice what to chose for 3.A and for 3.B?
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:49 pm
by seagul
MJony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:42 pm
We dont have joined bank account but utility bills are jointly named.
Yes utility bills in joint name can be used. Also the evidences including bank statements in solo names can be complemented too wherever the deficiency arises. Usually 6 piece of documents if in joint named or 12 in solo names or mix n match fulfill the criteria.
MJony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:42 pm
Sorry but may be i could not explain my point(3). In point(3) both 3.A and 3.B, there is option(radio button) to chose Yes or No.
3.A. Think it can be yes as we have joint utility
3.B. Honestly have no clue what is this question is all about ??
Please advice what to chose for 3.A and for 3.B?
Say yes to 3a and no to 3b because it is regarding a third party which isn't the case in your situation.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:00 pm
by MJony
Thanks. You helped me to save some money in this pandemic. you guys are champion.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:35 pm
by MJony
Hi,
Please advice how many days maximum she can be outside UK to satisfy ILR requirement ? Not sure about the 180 days absence rules, please provide bit detail idea about this 180 days rule.
She got her PBS dep. visa on 10/04/2016, came uk 07/05/2016.
** no absence till next extension
Her Tier 2 (General) Dependent extension was given on 29/03/2019.
Absence: 20/11/2019 - 01/01/2020
Thanks in advance
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:59 pm
by CULLINAN
Her Tier 2 (General) Dependent extension was given on 29/03/2019.
Absence: 20/11/2019 - 01/01/2020
She will only list this. She is fine. The absence limit is 180 days on rolling basis on any leave granted after 11th Jan 2018 only.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:09 pm
by MJony
Thanks @CULLINAN.
Honestly, i have seen your this same reply on other post! But please elaborate bit more what it means when you say
The absence limit is 180 days on rolling basis
as she is planning to go holiday now for few months.
In simple words, does it mean that she can be maximum 180 days outside UK on any 12-months period ?
please reply...
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:10 pm
by CULLINAN
180 days in one go OR 180 days anytime in the year on rolling basis.
1st Jan 2020 - 31st Dec 2020.
2nd Jan 2020 - 1st Jan 2021.
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.
2nd June 2021 - 1st June 2022.
Etc
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:20 pm
by MJony
Thank you!
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:24 pm
by CULLINAN
Also, the 3a and 3b as stated above - your answers based on those questions will let you sign accordingly. This is a family consent form generated when you apply and have to submit with the application.
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onsent.pdf
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:24 am
by MJony
As you bring this (3a), (3b) question up, will you advice what i should answer of the question (3b) ?
My wife(PBS dependent) does not work and totally depend on me financially. Our utility bills are on both her and my name. In this case i understand that (3a) should be answered "YES" but (3b) winding me up!
According to my understating of question (3b), i thought the answer would be "YES" as she depend on me and joint utility bills.
3b. Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?
even though @seagul advised (3b) answer should be "NO"
Say yes to 3a and no to 3b because it is regarding a third party which isn't the case in your situation
what will be the correct answer on 3b ?
Please advice, i will be really grateful if you could clarify this bit.
And based on (3a) (3b) answer, who will sign which consent form?
First consent ---> my wife(applicant)
2nd consent ---> Me/husband.
3rd consent ---> mark as n/a
is this correct ?
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:53 am
by CULLINAN
In my opinion, 3b should be yes. Also, this is a “family consent form” and Part 3 mentions about financial dependence.
I always recommend to sign more than less. No harm.
My suggestion would be:
Part 1: Applicant
Part 2 & 3: You sign.
Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?"
I have agreed to provide financial support to the applicant as set out in the application form. I have provided information or documentation to support the application. I understand the Home Office may verify the information or documentation which has been provided.
Although PBS dep application does not have any income requirements but financial support could be seen even as you pay her fees or supports her financially and she is not working.
The above is my understanding but since this is a subjective matter, you can decide what you want to do as you have two separate opinions in the thread.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:03 am
by CULLINAN
Also, now the new updated PBS dep form asks some new questions like rent etc also. As, I said, PBS dependent does not have any income/financial requirements but since this is a generic form, I suggest to sign more than less.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:13 pm
by MJony
Thanks @CULLINAN.
In my opinion, 3b should be yes. Also, this is a “family consent form” and Part 3 mentions about financial dependence.
I always recommend to sign more than less. No harm.
Makes sense and as there is no harm doing so.
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:30 pm
by MJony
Hi All,
My Wife(as PBS Dependent) planning to apply for ILR on March'2022.
Please suggest what will be the start date to calculate 5 years route? Is it first BRP issue date or entry clearance date on passport or uk entry date.
** i double checked and dates given below are correct.
Her First BRP Card issue date: 10/04/2016
Entry clearance date on passport(which is for 30 days): 23/04/2016
uk entry date: 07/05/2016
After reading the pdf from gov.uk "Indefinite leave to remain: calculating continuous period in UK Version 20.0" which says
The period between entry clearance being issued and the applicant entering the UK may be counted toward the qualifying period. Any absences between the date of issue and entry to the UK are considered an allowable absence.
So from this reference, it is clearly not the uk entry date. please help me here.
According to my calculation, earliest she can apply(5 years minus 28 days) is 12/03/2022.
Need your advice... Thank you
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:34 pm
by MJony
Sorry in my previous post, i meant to say 2021 not 2022.
So According to my calculation, earliest she can apply(5 years minus 28 days) is 12/03/2021. is this correct?
Need your advice... Thank you
Re: PBS Dependent - ILR SET(O)
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:38 pm
by CULLINAN
She is eligible from 10/4/2021 minus 28 days given she meets all the other requirements.