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5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:53 am
by plugincars
I am planning to apply for SET(O) visa but I have some doubts about calculating 5 years of stay.

I entered UK on 16/01/2016 with tier 2 general visa valid till 14/12/2017.
My sponsor revoked their license and curtailed on 01/08/2016 giving me a new end date of 30/09/2016.
I was able to find another sponsor and applied on 28/09/2016, but on 18/01/2017 they withdraw there offer.
Home office give me only two weeks to leave UK of find another sponsor. So on 24/01/2017 I applied for FLR(HRO) combined with judicial review.
Before getting a decision I found a sponsor and got a new tier 2 general visa from 23/05/2017 to 18/06/2020 which I extended later to 03/07/2021.
So basically I varied my application twice from T2G to FLR/HRO then to T2G. All application done within allowed dates.

My question is: What is my status during the period from 30/09/2016 to 23/05/2017?
If I apply now for ILR can this be considered as five continues years?
If not, what do you suggest me to do to improve my chances to get ILR?

Thanks

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:30 am
by zimba
Is it not quite clear if HO refused any of the application or not. If not your status remained as Tier and your 5 years is intact

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:29 am
by plugincars
Zimba wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:30 am
Is it not quite clear if HO refused any of the application or not. If not your status remained as Tier and your 5 years is intact
Thanks Zimba for your reply. I don't think HO refused any of my application. I only got an email from the caseworker that my second sponsor withdraw the cos so I varied to FLR. Then when I found another sponsor I varied to T2G.

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:25 am
by zimba
Request an SAR but it seems you should be ok

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:37 am
by Happydays11
Zimba, simple question if he manage to get tier (in country) he should be fine. (as tier doesn't allow in country out of time application) am i right?

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:10 pm
by zimba
Happydays11 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:37 am
Zimba, simple question if he manage to get tier (in country) he should be fine. (as tier doesn't allow in country out of time application) am i right?
No. Out of time application is when you apply for an application when you do not have a visa (e.g as an overstayer)
If you apply within 14 days of becoming an overstayer your application will be ok but that application is out of time and you remain an overstayer until a decision

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:16 pm
by Happydays11
Zimba wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:10 pm
Happydays11 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:37 am
Zimba, simple question if he manage to get tier (in country) he should be fine. (as tier doesn't allow in country out of time application) am i right?
No. Out of time application is when you apply for an application when you do not have a visa (e.g as an overstayer)
If you apply within 14 days of becoming an overstayer your application will be ok but that application is out of time and you remain an overstayer until a decision
if application made after 14 days , and tier application granted.. its means 5 years tier still intact they might give exception under 39E rule?

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:23 pm
by zimba
Yes. The overstaying will be disregarded

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:05 pm
by plugincars
Zimba wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:25 am
Request an SAR but it seems you should be ok
I just received the SAR by email now but I don't understand it. Where should I look?
Here is part of the summary page:
Applic/Raised DateFlavour(s)Case TypeOutcomeAssociationTypeDeleted?
26-Apr-2016GCurtailment Consideration - Tier 2Curtail - Leave RemainingMain ApplicantSOLE
29-Sep-2016GT2 SW - General Migrant - LTRVoid - Inappropriate ApplicationMain ApplicantSOLE
24-Jan-2017GOutside the Rules Comp. Grounds - LTR(E)Void - Inappropriate ApplicationMain ApplicantSOLE
15-May-2017GT2 SW - General Migrant - LTRGRANT L.T.R.Main ApplicantSOLE
21-May-2020GATLAS - T2 SW - General Migrant - LTRGRANT L.T.R.Main ApplicantSOLE

Thanks again

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:59 pm
by plugincars
I also found this note from the caseworker :
Decision Summary Main & Dependants:
Applicant entered in Tier 2 and sponsor licence was revoked applicant applied for further Tier 2 but the
employer withdrew the sponsorship, app then varied to Outside of the rules this was clearly to give himself
time to find work.
New sponsor checked and no concerns
English and maintenance deemed s pp was last gran ed Tier 2 and has not been granted anything since.
spoke the case through with SCW xxxxxxxx and she agrees no reasons not to grant.
No Concerns
Decision Outcome:
¿ Main - Grant LTR under Para 245HD until 18/06/2020 code 4
a) 5 years from start date of employment would be = 05/06/2022
b) End date of employment plus 14 days would be = 18/06/2020
c) The applicant is subject to the 6 year limit and will have completed 6 years on 16/01/2022.

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:01 pm
by CR001
Please do not post names of ukvi staff on the forum!.

Re: 5 years IRL with gaps.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:03 pm
by plugincars
CR001 wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:01 pm
Please do not post names of ukvi staff on the forum!.
Sorry, I thought it was already removed.