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				ILR query
				Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:52 pm
				by indian89
				Currently have a spouse visa (extended 2 years back). The BRP expiry is end of October 2023, can I apply prior to expiry date, e.g. get application submitted 2 days before BRP.
Do the biometrics have to be done prior to RRP expiry or can they be done even after BRP expiry as long as application submitted?
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:02 pm
				by CR001
				Date of application is the date you submit and pay online and must be done before visa expiry.
Biometrics can be done at any time even if the visa has expired.
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:26 pm
				by indian89
				Thank you. Do you not become overstayer if biometrics are done after BRP expiry even if application was submitted before?
Also how many forms of address letters is needed for ILR submission, e.g. council tax bills, electric etc
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:29 pm
				by CR001
				Do you not become overstayer if biometrics are done after BRP expiry even if application was submitted before?
No!  Biometrics is ONLY for identity check and finger prints and photo. They are done by a third party agent, not UKVI.  The date of application is the date you submit and pay for the application online.  That is it.
Also how many forms of address letters is needed for ILR submission, e.g. council tax bills, electric etc
Last two years, from 3 to 6 different sources, spread evenly for every 3 to 4 months.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:46 pm
				by indian89
				CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:29 pm
Do you not become overstayer if biometrics are done after BRP expiry even if application was submitted before?
No!  Biometrics is ONLY for identity check and finger prints and photo. They are done by a third party agent, not UKVI.  The date of application is the date you submit and pay for the application online.  That is it.
Also how many forms of address letters is needed for ILR submission, e.g. council tax bills, electric etc
Last two years, from 3 to 6 different sources, spread evenly for every 3 to 4 months.
 
Thank you. Do the supporting documents have to be submitted before BRP expiry? 
I understand they are uploaded onto UKVCAs system?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:23 pm
				by CR001
				No, the don't!
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:47 am
				by indian89
				CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:23 pm
No, the don't!
 
Thanks - it seems weird all you need to do is submit application before expiry.
What is the reason biometrics and supporting documentation can be done far later? 
Is this written somewhere on government website
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:03 am
				by indian89
				If the supporting documents are uploaded after BRP expiry is this ok as long as application is completed?
I have read the application is not sent for processing until supporting documents are done so if BRP expired by this point is that the issue?
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:43 am
				by CR001
				1. Yes!!!
2. No issue!!!!
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:11 pm
				by indian89
				CR001 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:43 am
1. Yes!!!
2. No issue!!!!
 
Where is this part on UK gov website, I tried to look for it but never found.
Appreciate your help and for answering my ques, probably can tell I am stressed!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:45 am
				by indian89
				I am sticking to my own thread as requested. Plesse could you help me understand why biometrics and supporting documents upload can be done even if BRP expired
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:36 am
				by vinny
				
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:46 am
				by indian89
				
Sorry I am not seeing which part answers my question
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:05 pm
				by vinny
				indian89 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:47 am
What is the reason biometrics and supporting documentation can be done far later? 
 
indian89 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:46 am
Sorry I am not seeing which part answers my question
 
The 
Supreme Court confirmed that a Biometrics appointment may be after expiry of leave. But the 
application date should be in-time to trigger 
Section 3C.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:48 pm
				by indian89
				vinny wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:05 pm
indian89 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:47 am
What is the reason biometrics and supporting documentation can be done far later? 
 
indian89 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:46 am
Sorry I am not seeing which part answers my question
 
The 
Supreme Court confirmed that a Biometrics appointment may be after expiry of leave. But the 
application date should be in-time to trigger 
Section 3C.
 
What about supporting documents upload on UKVCAS, is that ok AFTER BRP expiry?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:15 am
				by zimba
				The date of BRP expiry is not relevant at all as section 3C applies, so your leave is automatically extended
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:49 pm
				by indian89
				zimba wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:15 am
The date of BRP expiry is not relevant at all as section 3C applies, so your leave is automatically extended
 
Thanks for confirming.
I have a diff question, do we have to provide pictures to prove relationship for ILR? We have done this previously for initial spouse visa and renewal.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:59 pm
				by zimba
				No such requirement exists
			 
			
					
				Is ILR moving to 8 years?
				Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:54 pm
				by indian89
				Currently spouse visa and next step ILR application in September.
Is the time frame for ILR moving to 8 years from previous 5?
Also can biometrics be done after visa expiry date on BRP?
			 
			
					
				Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?
				Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:56 pm
				by alterhase58
				The 8 years is just a proposal by the New Conservatives group of MPs as part of their proposals to clamp down on immigration.
			 
			
					
				Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?
				Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 pm
				by indian89
				alterhase58 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:56 pm
The 8 years is just a proposal by the New Conservatives group of MPs as part of their proposals to clamp down on immigration.
 
What do you mean new group
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?
				Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:02 pm
				by zimba
				indian89 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:54 pm
Currently spouse visa and next step ILR application in September.
Is the time frame for ILR moving to 8 years from previous 5?
Also can biometrics be done after visa expiry date on BRP?
 
No. There has never been ANY official home office or proposed government policy to change the ILR qualifying period. 
The panic seems to have originated from a political pressure group conference: 
general-uk-immigration-forum/ilr-change ... l#p2120794
The date of application is the date you submit it online. If you apply for a new application 
before visa expiry, you get section 3C protection. This means your visa gets extended automatically after its expiry date until you get a decision. The Biometrics date does not affect anything and does not matter. This was already explained to you above
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?
				Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:12 pm
				by alterhase58
				indian89 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 pm
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:56 pm
The 8 years is just a proposal by the New Conservatives group of MPs as part of their proposals to clamp down on immigration.
 
What do you mean new group
 
The group is called “New Conservatives”. As said there’s no government proposal to change current requirements.
 
			 
			
					
				ILR application form confusing question
				Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:36 am
				by indian89
				Would appreciate help on following please.
Whilst completing ILR partner visa there is the following questions:
Do you have any friends in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?
Are you part of any social groups or do you have other cultural ties in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?
(Required)
This could include social networks or connections to any of these countries
My spouse has lived in UK for over 5 years but is the question aimed at her previous country of birth or does it include friends and social groups in UK too?
			 
			
					
				Re: ILR query
				Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:01 pm
				by indian89
				Passed B1 IELTS life skills speaking and listening in 08/2020. Used this for spouse extension visa.
The certificate says CEFR level - B1
Can it also be used for indefinite leave to remain application or is a new one needed now it has been 3 years?