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WRS question

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:05 am
by Saladin0011
Hi there. I want ask about WRS. I was working in 2010 for one company and I was registered but then I left for 2-3 months and then started work for them for 1 month again from 01/2011 but I didn't registered again. Was my first registration still valid or I should registered again. Orwas there any period which i didn't need to register for some time?

Thank you for help

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:58 pm
by sheraz7
if the first probationary 12 months under WRS scheme were not completed then each time while changing employer the A8 national worker needed to re-register again under that scheme. If you restarted work again for same employer even not resigned/removed then that registration must have been valid. That scheme existed between 2004-2011.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:29 pm
by Saladin0011
Yes. My registration was from 07/2010 and I left that company and went out of UK from 10/2010 and then I came back 01.2011 for 1 month and worked for the same company like previous year. So was it still valid?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:42 pm
by sheraz7
If on restarting the work with same employer if the employer did not suggest to re-register and you did not get any notification regarding your previous wrs registration then i think you will fine.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:58 pm
by Saladin0011
No, they didn't care. But I don't know what will say people from border office when I will be asking for PR.

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:32 am
by sheraz7
Saladin0011 wrote:No, they didn't care. But I don't know what will say people from border office when I will be asking for PR.
if you are still unsure then for a nominal fee usually £10 can request Sar file from ukba which under freedom of information will disclose all the record they kept for you. This way you can solve this mystery.

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:46 am
by Saladin0011
WOW. You are awesome. Thank you ;)

Re: WRS question

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:20 am
by askmeplz82
Saladin0011 wrote:Hi there. I want ask about WRS. I was working in 2010 for one company and I was registered but then I left for 2-3 months and then started work for them for 1 month again from 01/2011 but I didn't registered again. Was my first registration still valid or I should registered again. Orwas there any period which i didn't need to register for some time?

Thank you for help
normally you need to show 12 month under WRS.

what you can do show payslip not for 12 months but 4/5 months

back in 2009 when i applied for EEA2 Home office require 12 months under WRS my wife exercising treaty right. I did only send couple of them not for every months

home office will not know that you left and started again unless you tell them

yes you are right i don't think any employer knew at that time about WRS. they never bothered to ask.

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:32 am
by Saladin0011
But when I left UK in10/2010 they sent me p45 and when I came back in 01/2011 and worked for them only 1 month they sent me payslip which started from 0 and p45 again when I finished.

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:35 am
by askmeplz82
Saladin0011 wrote:But when I left UK in10/2010 they sent me p45 and when I came back in 01/2011 and worked for them only 1 month they sent me payslip which started from 0 and p45 again when I finished.

little complicated. if it's for PR application then Home office may scrutinise your application ( check with HMRC )

If it was for EEA1 then it's may be not a problem

Try your luck. send some payslips and old contract letter.

if you started work in january 2009 send payslip for january 2009, april, july, september, january 2010. They may not find out.

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:21 am
by Saladin0011
Yep. It is for PR.
What if I will use Employment history which I have from HMRC? According this paper I am still working for that company even though I quit in 02/2011.
Now I am waiting for all these Employment history sheets from 2009 - 2013 which I hope I can use as a prove of employment together with WRS from 2009/2010/2011.

What do you think?

Re: WRS question 2

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:53 am
by vinny
Saladin0011 wrote:Hi guys. I want ask what was the rule for registration with WRS. After how long I had to registered in new job? Was there any number of days? I was in 2009 working for agency for about 2-3 weeks and then I found proper job which I was registered with but now I have gap without WRS for that agency.

Other problem is that I was working for company in 2010, I registered with them, then I went for long holiday about 3 months, during this time they ended our contract and when I came back I sstarted work for them again (just for 1 month) but I didn't registered with WRS again. Today I called UKBA/HO but they don't know anything and they said I will have to explain it immigration officer when I will apply for PR. I didn't know there is any interview and I thought I just have to fill out application form and then somebody decide if I can have PR or not.

How does it work?
sheraz7 wrote:
sheraz7 wrote:
if you are still unsure then for a nominal fee usually £10 can request Sar file from ukba which under freedom of information will disclose all the record they kept for you. This way you can solve this mystery.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... ht=#912526
askmeplz82 wrote:
Saladin0011 wrote:Hi guys. I want ask what was the rule for registration with WRS. After how long I had to registered in new job? Was there any number of days? I was in 2009 working for agency for about 2-3 weeks and then I found proper job which I was registered with but now I have gap without WRS for that agency.

Other problem is that I was working for company in 2010, I registered with them, then I went for long holiday about 3 months, during this time they ended our contract and when I came back I sstarted work for them again (just for 1 month) but I didn't registered with WRS again. Today I called UKBA/HO but they don't know anything and they said I will have to explain it immigration officer when I will apply for PR. I didn't know there is any interview and I thought I just have to fill out application form and then somebody decide if I can have PR or not.

How does it work?
You will normally have to register under the Worker Registration Scheme if you wish to work for an employer in the United Kingdom for more than one month

Once you have been working in the United Kingdom legally for 12 months without a break in employment, you will no longer have to register on the Worker Registration Scheme

They will only count your registered work; I asked this question to an European caseworker and he confirmed that even if you have worked 1 year before registering under WRS scheme ( for a8 national ) it will not be count . They will only count work from the certificate issued date


with you 2nd question.


What counts as 12 months ‘uninterrupted work’?


'Uninterrupted work' means you must not be out of work for more than a total of 30 days in a 12 month period. You will need your registration certificates and other evidence of employment to show 12 months' uninterrupted employment.


http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. ... k/eea/wrs/
Saladin0011 wrote:I found this
If you do not apply within one month of starting a job, your employment will be unlawful after that date. It will then be unlawful until you are issued with a registration certificate and you may have to stop working. Any time you spend working here unlawfully will not count towards your 12-month qualifying period to become exempt from registration.
Does it means I can be working for one employer for less than one month and don't need to register? If I was working for him about 3 weeks only, so it is still legal?
askmeplz82 wrote:
Saladin0011 wrote:I found this
If you do not apply within one month of starting a job, your employment will be unlawful after that date. It will then be unlawful until you are issued with a registration certificate and you may have to stop working. Any time you spend working here unlawfully will not count towards your 12-month qualifying period to become exempt from registration.
Does it means I can be working for one employer for less than one month and don't need to register? If I was working for him about 3 weeks only, so it is still legal?

What it mean is if you didn't register that employer with WRS. If home office don't any any record that you worked for them then it's illegal

any work you did from WRS issued date to next 12 month must be informed. If you changed 4 jobs in 12 months you need 4 WRS