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hi
my wife is in uk ( belfast ) on eea permit, she has permanent residence. she want to fly from dublin / eire to thailand, can she do this ?

i will be accompanying her and my child. i dont want to buy tickets only for her to be refused to board airline

This might help: "Non-nationals who are family members of a European Union citizen and holders of a document called “Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen” as referred to in Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 29 April 2004, are not subject to an Irish visa requirement." This was sent by: Visa Mail <visamail@justice.ie>.

I guess that if she has PR through the European rules (NOT the UK immigration rules (which is called ILR)) then she shouldn't have an issue, however, I would recommend emailing/calling the airline!

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C

She may require a Thai visa, depending on her nationality.

vinny wrote:She may require a Thai visa, depending on her nationality.

She is Thai. It seems that the concern is around flying out of Dublin and not entering Thailand.

Visa checker for the return journey is more illuminating -

/ 14OCT14 / 1215 UTC
National Thailand (TH) /Residence United Kingdom (GB)
Embarkation Ireland (Rep.) (IE) /Transit Ireland (Rep.) (IE)
Destination United Kingdom (GB)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

Ireland (Rep.) (IE)


Visa required, except for Holders of "Family Member" Residence
Permits issued by United Kingdom to a family member of an EEA
national For details, click here or national of Switzerland.
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Holders of onward tickets for a max.
transit For details, click here time of 24 hours.
Additional Information:
- Visitors holding passports containing a British inadmissible
stamp could be refused entry.



Ireland (Rep.) (IE)

Vaccinations not required.

United Kingdom (GB)


Passport required.
- Passports and/or passport replacing documents issued to
residents of the United Kingdom must be valid on arrival.
Passport Exemptions:
- Holders of emergency or temporary passports.

Visa required, except for Holders of a Biometric Resident
Permit issued by the UK, provided:
- the last leave (permission) to enter or remain in the UK has
not expired and was given for a period of more than six
months; or
- the last leave has not expired and was given by the stamp
which reads: "Given leave to enter to complete previous leave
Section 3(3)(b) ; or
- alien resident is a permanent resident of the UK returning
within two years (SEE NOTE 52453) of last departure; or
- alien resident has the right of abode in the UK confirmed by
a Certificate of Entitlement to the Right of Abode vignette
in the passport.
NOTE 52453: The two year restriction does not apply to
accompanying spouses and children of military personnel
returning to the United Kingdom.
Visa required, except for Holders of an EEA Family Residence
Card issued by the UK.
Visa required, except for Holders of an EEA Family Permit
issued by the UK, if the holder is traveling with, or to join
the EEA For details, click here or Swiss national.
Minors:
- When their names are registered in the passport of (one of)
their parents or guardians, For details, click here
- Pupils For details, click here



United Kingdom (GB)

Vaccinations not required.

CHECK TINEWS/N1 - SOUTH AFRICA - REQUIREMENT FOR MINORS TO
HOLD BIRTH CERTIFICATE POSTPONED UNTIL 1 JUNE 2015

We've been discussing what seems to be the same case on Thaivisa. Dmax/Dirtycash is dual British-Irish and it seems no third EEA host state is involved (so no Surinder Singh), so it seems that since McCarthy the wife no longer counts as a family member of an EEA national for entry without a visa or residence card. Expert correction would be welcome.

Would an airline count a UK-issued permanent residence card as a "'family member' residence permit"? Would an expired residence card issued to her as a family member be of any use?

Richard W wrote:We've been discussing what seems to be the same case on Thaivisa. Dmax/Dirtycash is dual British-Irish and it seems no third EEA host state is involved (so no Surinder Singh), so it seems that since McCarthy the wife no longer counts as a family member of an EEA national for entry without a visa or residence card. Expert correction would be welcome.

Would an airline count a UK-issued permanent residence card as a "'family member' residence permit"? Would an expired residence card issued to her as a family member be of any use?

Yes an expired residence card would be of use as this would trigger the transitional provisions thus meaning that the dual British/EEA national would still fall to be treated as an EEA national, and indeed further Residence Card and EEA Family Permit applications should be processed on that basis, including seeking entry at port (in my view)

Would such an expired residence card count for anything for flying to (airline polices) or entering (Garda polices) Ireland?