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Hi Everybody:

This is my first time to post on here,

I am a British Citizen and my father is an EEA national who is willing to apply for a registration certificate as a qualified person, he is going to use the Self-sufficient route. He worked in Germany for the last 13 years or so. He has just retired and no longer working in Germany and is planning to come and stay with me in the UK hence the registration certificate application.

My question is

To apply for the EEA (QP) (Self-sufficient), does my father need to make the application from the UK? or can he apply from Germany?

If he had to be in the UK to make the application my next question is: is there a minimum length of stay that he needs to show on his application as a UK resident?


I would really appreciate your reply.

Many thanks.

Anthony.

kassan wrote:Hi Everybody:

This is my first time to post on here,

I am a British Citizen and my father is an EEA national who is willing to apply for a registration certificate as a qualified person, he is going to use the Self-sufficient route. He worked in Germany for the last 13 years or so. He has just retired and no longer working in Germany and is planning to come and stay with me in the UK hence the registration certificate application.

My question is

To apply for the EEA (QP) (Self-sufficient), does my father need to make the application from the UK? or can he apply from Germany?

If he had to be in the UK to make the application my next question is: is there a minimum length of stay that he needs to show on his application as a UK resident?


I would really appreciate your reply.

Many thanks.

Anthony.

If father has EEA passport he can simply come directly & asap.
Tell him to bring German EHIC.

No need for entry visa, for first 3 months no need to exercise treaty rights.

After 3 months if he likes it he can stay; just needs CSI.

Applying for RC is optional. Apply from UK.
It is NOT needed to enter UK - just book flight & come!

Viva free movement!

Thank you noajthan, this is very helpful.


My father might not be able to come straight away. I just was wondering while he's in Germany whether he could make the application for RC. I was led to believe that having RC is better for the long run especially with the coming referendum. I am not clear whether applying from Germany is a possibility.

Many thanks.

kassan wrote:Thank you noajthan, this is very helpful.


My father might not be able to come straight away. I just was wondering while he's in Germany whether he could make the application for RC. I was led to believe that having RC is better for the long run especially with the coming referendum. I am not clear whether applying from Germany is a possibility.

Many thanks.

Well if there's Brexit all bets are off.

No, a RC is not a 'visa' - & father doesn't need any sort of visa to come anyway.

Apply for RC when in UK & when exercising treaty rights, not before.

RC is optional & doesn't guarantee anything.

After 5 years in UK he may acquire PR (settled status) - if UK is still in EU by then.

Thank you again,


Can my father exercise his Treaty rights straight away if he has CSI, or he has to wait for three months before so?

Many thanks

kassan wrote:Thank you again,


Can my father exercise his Treaty rights straight away if he has CSI, or he has to wait for three months before so?

Many thanks

Under EU law, as you father is retired and been working in Germany, then Germany should issue him with an S1 to cover his all healthcare when he retires to another EEA country. Unlike an EHIC, which is only limited cover for those who are temporalily in another EEA country, the S1 is for those who are retired and covers all their health bills if they retire to another EEA country. He produces his S1 issued by Germany, to the NHS which shows that Germany will pay for all his NHS treatment and the NHS then bill Germany (just as other EEA countries bills the UK when a UK S1 is produced).

Have a look on the German site to see what they require to issue him with an S1.

In answer to your question, his 5 years to PR will begin when he retires to the UK (a self sufficient qualified person) and has his health insurance (his German S1).

The 3 months is the time an EEA citizen is allowed to be in another country if they are not a qualified person. During this time they can start to be a qualified person, as your father will be with his German S1.

Thank you very much, this forum is helpful.
Anthony.