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Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in UK

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:53 am
by garyho1314
Hi

Thank you very much for reading my message. I am a Portuguese citizen who live in UK over 16 years. Having realised that to apply UK citizenship, I need to first apply for permanent residence card. I am a qualified person as been working in here over 5 years continuously.

When looked up the Gov uk website, I am confused, not sure which applications I should go for. I have learned something called registration certificate (EEA-QP). By reading the form, it is pretty similar to the application form of permanent residence card. Likewise, both application required £65 as application fee. Are the actually the same thing? My goal is to become a permanent resident first and then apply for a British passport the next year.

Once again thank you very much for you help

Gary

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:37 pm
by noajthan
EEA (QP) is for a RC.

Apply for DCPR using EEA(PR).

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:38 pm
by ptstream
you need to apply for a document certifying Permanent Residence (DCPR).

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:43 pm
by garyho1314
Hi all

Thank you very much for your reply. I am much clear now.

Kind regards

Gary

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:20 pm
by manci
If the 5 year period making you eligible for PR started 6 years ago or earlier you may be able to apply for PR and naturalisation at the same time.

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:02 pm
by Noetic
manci wrote:If the 5 year period making you eligible for PR started 6 years ago or earlier you may be able to apply for PR and naturalisation at the same time.
Since you need the DCPR to apply for naturalisation that isn't possible. However if you submit evidence going 6 years back then you can apply for naturalisation as soon as you get the DCPR. (Preferably after checking via Subject Access Request what date Home Office have down for you attaining PR)

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:55 am
by manci
From the evidence presented the HO will work from the earliest “deemed to have PR” date. The OP can file simultaneously and explain in covering letters with each application that this is what he is doing. The nationality caseworker will see that a PR application has been made. European and nationality applications are handled by different work streams and each has its separate queue, so there could be a potential time saving.

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:13 am
by ptstream
I doubt anyone would attempt a naturalization application before getting a DCPR.

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:14 pm
by Noetic
manci wrote:From the evidence presented the HO will work from the earliest “deemed to have PR” date. The OP can file simultaneously and explain in covering letters with each application that this is what he is doing.
That's just complete balderdash. PR document is MANDATORY for naturalisation applications from people on the EEA route and has been since November 2015. You cannot apply for both at once & your dubious advice is putting people at risk of losing their citizenship fees.

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:25 pm
by ohara
Noetic wrote:
manci wrote:From the evidence presented the HO will work from the earliest “deemed to have PR” date. The OP can file simultaneously and explain in covering letters with each application that this is what he is doing.
That's just complete balderdash. PR document is MANDATORY for naturalisation applications from people on the EEA route and has been since November 2015. You cannot apply for both at once & your dubious advice is putting people at risk of losing their citizenship fees.
I believe at one member of this forum has actually done this and been successful.

Re: Registration certificate vs Permanent residence card in

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:42 pm
by ptstream
it's not impossible but considering the fee cost I wouldn't recommend that