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Dear all,

I've recently submitted an application for permanent RC after ROR and I am a bit nervous as I am not sure if the supporting documents I have submitted are sufficient.

In fact I retain my ROR in 2013 following a divorce in 2012.
To support my PR application among many other documents, I have sent my P60s from date of divorce till date of PR application (covering 4 years).
For the remaining one year (when I was still married to my ex) I have have submitted her HMRC statement of earnings for 2011-2012 (combining self employment and employment) as well as her P60 for 2011-2012 only covering employment for 4 months as she was self employed Between April and January 2011.

In addition, have also sent her P60 for 2012-2013 with the same employer (whole year as an employee) to show that her employment was genuine and effective.
My EX also had a CSI for 2011-2012 but I didn't send it and I am wondering if I should send it to the case worker as additional supporting without creating any confusion. She did the CSI when she was self employed as she wasn't sure whether she needed it to be exercising treaty right as a self employed.

Would the documents that I have already submitted be enough? should I send her CSI for 2011-2012?

Many thanks,

Evidence of CSI is only required by student and selfsufficient qualified persons.

noajthan wrote:Evidence of CSI is only required by student and selfsufficient qualified persons.

Thanks Noajthan! do you think I have sent enough documents considering that my ex and I aren't on speaking terms and that she is no longer in the UK?

When you retained ROR in 2013 did you mean you have another RC to proof it or by documents? if it's yes why are you applying for PR in 2016 or you both arrived from another member state and trying to proof your only a year in UK after 3years of marriage.

Anyway, all your own work till the end of divorce is purely irrelevant. But the divorce date till when you make your PR application and beyond is what is most important to you.

If i understand you from what i read about your ex document to me you only proof 2011 to 2012 and 2012 to 2013 that is why i ask my first question above.

Hi rodrimarto ,
I believe you can not get a second RC( ROR) if you didn't meet the requirement regarding your ex treaty right ,therefore all you need is to top up the folder with proof of your own employment to complete a 5years then your application is completed !
that's what I was told by my solicitor and I read my self the regulations
I am actually waiting for my second RC after divorce (all I sent was my ex`s p60 up to divorce date ,)+all other required document
how did you get your RC after divorce? was it straight forward or through out the court ?

thank you

Wise wrote:When you retained ROR in 2013 did you mean you have another RC to proof it or by documents? if it's yes why are you applying for PR in 2016 or you both arrived from another member state and trying to proof your only a year in UK after 3years of marriage.

Anyway, all your own work till the end of divorce is purely irrelevant. But the divorce date till when you make your PR application and beyond is what is most important to you.

If i understand you from what i read about your ex document to me you only proof 2011 to 2012 and 2012 to 2013 that is why i ask my first question above.

In 2013 I was given another RC valid for 5 years with a letter saying that I retained my ROR.
We lived together in the UK for 5 years; 4 years as husband and wife before divorcing.
I am only applying for PR now because of lack of evidence of her exercising treaty right continuously during those years (there were gaps).
I have sent 5 years of both of us exercising treaty right ( 1 year before divorce and 4 years since divorced) .
My query was regarding the solidity of the evidence that I have sent for her for 2010-2011 ( HMRC doc and P60s)

Quote you: I have sent 5 years of both of us exercising treaty right ( 1 year before divorce and 4 years since divorced) .
My query was regarding the solidity of the evidence that I have sent for her for 2010-2011 ( HMRC doc and P60s).


This is straightforward if you intend to use any 5yrs residence it has to be continuous. But from your post above you only post 2010-2011 what about 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 when you get your ROR.

Either you provide last year treaty right of your ex till when you divorce plus your own employment stuff to make 5yrs after your ROR.

Or count another 5yrs from the date of your divorce and apply on your own merit for PR. Please get back to me if am missing something.

Wise wrote:Quote you: I have sent 5 years of both of us exercising treaty right ( 1 year before divorce and 4 years since divorced) .
My query was regarding the solidity of the evidence that I have sent for her for 2010-2011 ( HMRC doc and P60s).


This is straightforward if you intend to use any 5yrs residence it has to be continuous. But from your post above you only post 2010-2011 what about 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 when you get your ROR.

Either you provide last year treaty right of your ex till when you divorce plus your own employment stuff to make 5yrs after your ROR.

Or count another 5yrs from the date of your divorce and apply on your own merit for PR. Please get back to me if am missing something.

Hi Wise ,
I have never mentioned 2010-11 as this isn't relevant.
I sent proof for my ex for 2011-12 and 2012-13 and my own P60 since divorce was finalised in 2012 till date (total 5 years)
Again the question was regarding the strength of the proof that I have sent for my ex ( HMRC doc +P60 covering only 4 months during financial year 2011-2012 and P60 for 2012-13)

Thanks,

rodrimarto wrote:

Wise wrote:When you retained ROR in 2013 did you mean you have another RC to proof it or by documents? if it's yes why are you applying for PR in 2016 or you both arrived from another member state and trying to proof your only a year in UK after 3years of marriage.

Anyway, all your own work till the end of divorce is purely irrelevant. But the divorce date till when you make your PR application and beyond is what is most important to you.

If i understand you from what i read about your ex document to me you only proof 2011 to 2012 and 2012 to 2013 that is why i ask my first question above.

In 2013 I was given another RC valid for 5 years with a letter saying that I retained my ROR.
We lived together in the UK for 5 years; 4 years as husband and wife before divorcing.
I am only applying for PR now because of lack of evidence of her exercising treaty right continuously during those years (there were gaps).
I have sent 5 years of both of us exercising treaty right ( 1 year before divorce and 4 years since divorced) .
My query was regarding the solidity of the evidence that I have sent for her for 2010-2011 ( HMRC doc and P60s)

Sorry Wise I meant 2011-2012

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Hi Wise ,
I have never mentioned 2010-11 as this isn't relevant.
I sent proof for my ex for 2011-12 and 2012-13 and my own P60 since divorce was finalised in 2012 till date (total 5 years)
Again the question was regarding the strength of the proof that I have sent for my ex ( HMRC doc +P60 covering only 4 months during financial year 2011-2012 and P60 for 2012-13)
Thanks.


Reply:

I think you should be fine with God on your side if you divorce in 2012. But do you mean 4 month documents for each year or just for 2011-2012 only as is not up to 6 month in that year. Because the last year before you divorce is the most important year for you if intend to use that as part of your 5yrs continuous otherwise is the other way round. Miracle can happen just pray and God will help in the end and if you can get anything like job seeking claim paperwork in that 2012 to cover it up to like 6 month in total you may as well send it as soon as you get your COA and it will be added with you documents before any caseworker work on it.

Wise wrote:

Hi Wise ,
I have never mentioned 2010-11 as this isn't relevant.
I sent proof for my ex for 2011-12 and 2012-13 and my own P60 since divorce was finalised in 2012 till date (total 5 years)
Again the question was regarding the strength of the proof that I have sent for my ex ( HMRC doc +P60 covering only 4 months during financial year 2011-2012 and P60 for 2012-13)
Thanks.


Reply:

I think you should be fine with God on your side if you divorce in 2012. But do you mean 4 month documents for each year or just for 2011-2012 only as is not up to 6 month in that year. Because the last year before you divorce is the most important year for you if intend to use that as part of your 5yrs continuous otherwise is the other way round. Miracle can happen just pray and God will help in the end and if you can get anything like job seeking claim paperwork in that 2012 to cover it up to like 6 month in total you may as well send it as soon as you get your COA and it will be added with you documents before any caseworker work on it.

Thanks Wise! The whole point of my post was the fact that my ex wife was exercising treaty right from april 2011 to April 2012 as both a self employed for 8-9 months and employed for the rest of the year.
I was mainly wondering if the Statement from HMRC showing earnings from both self Employment and employment + P60 , would be enough evidence for HO given that I did'nt have her bank statement or invoice etc... By the way she was a self employed housekeeper .

You should be fine and how does she paid for national insurance payment because if you have the statement for that is okay to send it too, but if not that is okay, just to have higher merit in the eye of the caseworker.

Good luck.

Hi,

Please Just a quick one, have you received your COA for your application and how long ago you submitted it. I am dealing with same issue now.

Thanks.

Dear all,

Just to inform you that I have received a letter ( all my doc were also returned) from the office saying that I should receive my Permanent residence card with 10 days . The whole process took 6 months and half months .

Many thanks,