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Re: Return of documents

I've just received the passports today with a letter stating as below, but i'm still not really sure about it, is it as standard where i have underlined in red (are they assuming most of non-eaa that are applying for their PR's, that their RCs are out of date or about to expire)
*If that was the case then my RC still valid till 2019 as i had to transfer my RC vignette from old to new passport and i have done that twice that's why my last RC expires in May 2019
*If that wasn't the case then why should I apply for an EEA family permit before returning to UK? still not sure! Please Advise!

"Please find enclosed the documents submitted in support of your application for UK residence documentation under directive 2004/38/EC, which you requested to be returned.

If you have requested a return of a passport in order to travel, please note that family members of an EEA national, who are not themselves EEA nationals, wishing to return to the United Kingdom should apply for an EEA family permit before returning. An EEA family permit is issued free of charge and on priority basis although third party partners may charge a handling fee .

It should be noted that any such application would need to be supported by evidence to show that the EEA national is in or traveling to the United Kingdom and that the relationship is as claimed .

All remaining documentation is required to support effective consideration of your case. please do not return your documents to the Home Office unless requested"

noajthan wrote:[....

Boilerplate letter.
Obviously FP not required from outside if someone still has a valid RC.[/quote]
Hey Noajthan,
thanks for your reply, sorry could you please explain that again as I am not really sure if I understood that! whats the FP, andf also not required...please clarify a bit more ! thanks

softy monster wrote:

noajthan wrote:Boilerplate letter.
Obviously FP not required from outside if someone still has a valid RC.

Hey Noajthan,
thanks for your reply, sorry could you please explain that again as I am not really sure if I understood that! whats the FP, andf also not required...please clarify a bit more ! thanks

The letter you quoted (above) refers to obtaining a family permit (FP) to reenter UK if travelling.
Anyone with a valid RC won't need a FP even if they are travelling.

Thank you very much!
Even if my original RC was supposed to expire on 19 Oct 2016, as I had new passport so technically when they transfer my RC from the old to the new passport, the expiry date changed from Oct 2016 to May 2019 instead! so to clarify..if I travel abroad and on my back to UK, would that be a problem for when entering the UK?

softy monster wrote:Even if my original RC was supposed to expire on 19 Oct 2016, as I had new passport so technically when they transfer my RC from the old to the new passport, the expiry date changed from Oct 2016 to May 2019 instead! so to clarify..if I travel abroad and on my back to UK, would that be a problem for when entering the UK?

RCs run for 5 years.
They don't magically extend.

If you have had a 2nd RC issued then when was it issued
And I'll leave the maths as exercise for reader

Note this is not about PR.

Question moved here as nothing to do with original topic (PR).

noajthan wrote:RCs run for 5 years.
They don't magically extend.

If you have had a 2nd RC issued then when was it issued
And I'll leave the maths as exercise for reader

Note this is not about PR.

Old RC was issued in Oct 2011 and was due to expire on Oct 2016
New RC was issued in May 2014 and is due to expire May 2019

leaving the maths as exercise for the reader when he scans it with his/her eyes, however how about when it comes to his/her scanner system, that time start questioning, why, how, when?? or is it like..ah "you are one of us..welcome back mate" what you see, what you get

P.S: of course i was aware when i had to apply for my PR, to follow the old expiry date instead, which i have already done!

noajthan wrote:RCs run for 5 years.
They don't magically extend.

If you have had a 2nd RC issued then when was it issued
And I'll leave the maths as exercise for reader

Note this is not about PR.

dear noajthan,
I know you have a lot going on and everyone is expecting you to reply at the same time, but whenever you are free please could see the above question! sorry of I had to ask again have a good day

You're over thinking this.
You got a boiler plate letter.
The generic advice to get a FP doesn't apply to reenter as you have a current RC.

noajthan wrote:You're over thinking this.
You got a boiler plate letter.
The generic advice to get a FP doesn't apply to reenter as you have a current RC.

that's true I am always over thinking when it comes to the HO, and I am also kind of person who likes to seek information/advise/Do/Don't do, beforehand
I guess I can sleep tonight tight
Thank you very much!