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Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:47 pm
by ma1306
Dear everyone,

I'm applying for British citizenship. I started filling out the online application form for a PR card.
Let me try to quickly summarise the past 6 years of my life...
I moved to Scotland from Hungary in August 2010 and started high school(S4) within one week. After finishing high school in May/June 2013 I enrolled as a full-time university student in Edinburgh. In May 2015 I decided to take a year off from my studies and work full-time instead. In September 2016 I felt ready to resume my studies and enrolled as a full-time student at the same university but on a different course. I've been working part-time/full-time since 2014, on and off. During my gap year I worked for at least 4 different companies, in hospitality. Now I have a permanent job at a health club.

Now, on the Study or Vocational training page a slightly confusing question popped up...
Were you a student or self-sufficient person? I said yes, well, since I've (almost) always been a student.
The next question was about Comprehensive sickness cover.
The available answers are as follows:

European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) issued by an EEA member state other than the UK (formerly form E111)

Form S1 (formerly E106, E109 or E121) The S1 form is a certificate of entitlement to health care in another EEA country for a limited duration. It can only be used by state pensioners or dependants of an insured person working in another member state

Form S2 (formerly E112) The S2 covers the actual cost of treatment. For example, insured people who are referred for specific treatment in another EEA country or Switzerland will have the cost of their treatment covered.)

Form S3 The S3 form will cover the cost of treatment. For example, retired frontier workers continuing treatment in the member state they previously worked in will have the cost of their treatment covered

Private health insurance plan



I am completely confused by this question. I do have a National Insurance card, is that what they are asking for or do I need to have private insurance, as well? No one has ever said anything about private insurance to me...

Please note that, currently I am employed by a health club and attend university (full-time).

Thank you in advance!

Mercedes

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:24 pm
by secret.simon
An EEA student is only recognised as being legally resident in the UK, if s/he has either a non-UK EHIC Card or Comprehensive Sickness Insurance. NHS cover does not count.

Of course, if you are a worker, you are exercising treaty rights in that way and you can ignore questions about being a student. But broadly, all the years spent as an EEA student without either a non-UK EHIC card or CSI do not count for you exercising treaty rights in the UK.

These are not UK requirements by the way. These requirements for students were laid out in EU Directive 2004/38/EC in 2004.

Part-time work counts as exercising treaty rights, so long as it is "genuine and effective" and not "marginal and ancillary".

Can the mods please move this query to the EEA-Route Applications forum?

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:44 pm
by noajthan
ma1306 wrote:Dear everyone,

I'm applying for British citizenship. I started filling out the online application form for a PR card.
Let me try to quickly summarise the past 6 years of my life...
I moved to Scotland from Hungary in August 2010 and started high school(S4) within one week. After finishing high school in May/June 2013 I enrolled as a full-time university student in Edinburgh. In May 2015 I decided to take a year off from my studies and work full-time instead. In September 2016 I felt ready to resume my studies and enrolled as a full-time student at the same university but on a different course. I've been working part-time/full-time since 2014, on and off. Durin...

Now, on the Study or Vocational training page a slightly confusing question popped up...
Were you a student or self-sufficient person? I said yes, well, since I've (almost) always been a student.
The next question was about Comprehensive sickness cover.
...

Private health insurance plan[/i]


I am completely confused by this question. I do have a National Insurance card, is that what they are asking for or do I need to have private insurance, as well? No one has ever said anything about private insurance to me...

Please note that, currently I am employed by a health club and attend university (full-time).

Thank you in advance!

Mercedes
Welcome.

Don't be too hard on yourself, you are not the first and won't be the last to fall for the CSI gotcha.
Unfortunately noone has to tell you about CSI, applicants are expected to know about it - it is part of EU free movement Directive.

A few possibilities...
Did you hold a foreign-issued EHIC?
Or did you have a UK RC issued to you as a student during/before 2011?

Did you come to UK alone or with any family member?
- if they were a qualified person it may be they can sponsor you as their dependent, possibly from as early as 2010?
In that case there would be no need for you to show that you had CSI in place.

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:50 pm
by ma1306
Dear noajthan,

Thank you for your help.
Yes, my father has been legally living and working full-time in Scotland since 2004. My mother and I moved here in 2010, since then she has been living and working(FT) in Scotland, as well.

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:12 am
by vinny
Were you under 21 after spending at least 5 years in the UK?

I think that you may acquire PR on the basis of residing for at least 5 years as a family member of an EEA national, who was/is excerising treaty rights.

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:36 am
by ma1306
vinny wrote:Were you under 21 after spending at least 5 years in the UK?

I think that you may acquire PR on the basis of residing for at least 5 years as a family member of an EEA national, who was/is excerising treaty rights.

Yes I am 21 years old now and I have been here for 6 and a half years. So I did not need to have CSI when I was a 15 year old high school student, right? I have had my NINO since I turned 16.

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:39 am
by noajthan
Parents are great aren't they.

Start here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... als-v4.pdf

As long as no WRS nonsense to worry about you may have aced it.
And no CSI nonsense either.

if under 21 during the period you were sponsored (possibly 2010 -2015) then no need to even show financial dependency on bank of mom and dad.

Christmas come early.

:idea: And with Brexit looming it may be worth parents securing their DCPRs too (if not done so already); especially if they have ambitions for citizenship.

Re: Comprehensive sickness cover

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:26 pm
by gaielle
Hi, I was worker in UK for over 1 year, after this I started the PhD studies which I finished this April. The bursary was covered by the British University.
Do I need to proof the comprehensive sickness cover?