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hello everyone, i am applying for permanent residence as a family member of eea national who already has permanent residence and need some help please. on absences, we traveled together over 30 times to Europe and a few time to Africa on the last five years but never exceeded the number. these are usually short breaks to see families in Ireland or Africa.

My worries is on the guidance note for filling the form section 5 page 8, says 'Please note, you only need to list your absences where you have been out of the UK for more than 6 months in total in any 12 month period. You do not need to list any absences that were before your qualifying period of residence.'

question is, does it mean we don't need to state our absences at all since they didn't amount to six months in any given 12 months.


thank you in advance.

Correct - this is how I read the English.

Correct. It is a self-declared section, and they trust you. Can you imagine if they had to go through all absences of all EU nationals and their families when they process these types of applications?

alterhase58 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:25 am

Correct - this is how I read the English.

So what does it mean, just leave them out? Do you kjow anyone who has been through that? Thanks

kamoe wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:34 am

Correct. It is a self-declared section, and they trust you. Can you imagine if they had to go through all absences of all EU nationals and their families when they process these types of applications?

I dont mind it because theybare genuine dates. My problem is its over 30 and just wondering if its even necessry. Becaue it's quite a work writing them down and making sure i have the right dates. Remeber i have to write for both of us.

mends wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:06 am

I dont mind it because theybare genuine dates. My problem is its over 30 and just wondering if its even necessry. Becaue it's quite a work writing them down and making sure i have the right dates. Remeber i have to write for both of us.

You mind, then

What I'm saying is, the HO is perfectly aware this is a waste of time when absences are not significant, and they prefer to trust people when they declare they have not had any absences.

In other words, answer to your question is NO, you do not have to declare anything.

kamoe wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:15 am

mends wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:06 am

I dont mind it because theybare genuine dates. My problem is its over 30 and just wondering if its even necessry. Becaue it's quite a work writing them down and making sure i have the right dates. Remeber i have to write for both of us.

You mind, then

What I'm saying is, the HO is perfectly aware this is a waste of time when absences are not significant, and they prefer to trust people when they declare they have not had any absences.

In other words, answer to your question is NO, you do not have to declare anything.

Lol, kemoe, i do mind. Lol. I am just worried if i don't state it it might have an issue thats all. I have been trying to write them and i keep making making mistakes and have correction fluid all over it. I was just wondering if its worth the time. Mind you i have to do that for both os us and over 30 travels. Thanks alot Kemoe

mends wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:06 am

My problem is its over 30 and just wondering if its even necessry.

It will be necessary to list them all if you plan to apply for naturalisation/British citizenship. The requirements for that are far more specific and tougher than those for PR. So you should start going through your documents and getting the precise dates of your travels abroad if you plan to become a British citizen.

secret.simon wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:59 am

mends wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:06 am

My problem is its over 30 and just wondering if its even necessry.

It will be necessary to list them all if you plan to apply for naturalisation/British citizenship. The requirements for that are far more specific and tougher than those for PR. So you should start going through your documents and getting the precise dates of your travels abroad if you plan to become a British citizen.

You canbe approximate.
I know a friend couple who travel at least four times a year abroad and who had no way of listing precisely their dates of travel during their qualifying years.

They guestimated that they went home for Christmas once a year, and somewhere else over the summer, but could not possibly be precise on their application. They put approximate dates and for sure did not list all of their travels. They got their British nationality without a problem. I suppose, if you roughly list your absences in good faith there is no problem, if that's the best you can do...