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Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:58 pm
by wonder007
Hi There

I am an Irish National living in UK since 2016. My parents have just returned to Pakistan after visiting me in UK. I am supporting them since 2004 and I`ll all relevant paper work to prove it i.e. banking transaction details.

I am a bit confused if I should apply for their residency under EU law or not as couple of people have suggested me that it would be very hard for them to get the resident visa as Home Office is very strict and normally don`t grant any visa to elderly people. Furthermore, once Resident visa is rejected, they will not be able to get the visa visa anymore. I don`t want to be in a situation where they are not able to even visit me as I can`t visit Pakistan on regular basis.

What is overall processing time if I apply from Pakistan and would it be good idea to bring them here again on visit visa and apply for pre-settlement status while they are in UK as it will be a speedy process. Any thoughts ?

I`ll highly appreciate your kind response.

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:54 am
by Zerubbabel
Hello

Yes, immigration of elderly people is difficult. I believe that if someone is not happy somewhere, that person should emigrate while young not waiting until reaching an advanced age as all doors will close then. It's a universal rule that countries try to block this immigration by all means. The reason is easy to understand: no country wants someone to pay taxes for 40 years somewhere then immigrate as his/her health and social costs go through the roof. This is not considered person by person by rather old people seen as a demographic group.

However, that being said, it seems like the United Kingdom lowered its immigration criteria since the Brexit. With the EU Settlement Scheme, nearly anyone qualifies. Many managed to bring parents, in-laws... and sometimes entire households. The dependency is not to be proven as strictly as under EEA route. There are even successful cases where people didn't even submit a single document towards proving dependency.

So for your parents, you need to apply under the EU Settlement Scheme. They need to do that from Pakistan rather than coming to the UK with a visitor visa.

There are good chances that it would work out of the box. I see many people applying and getting positive outcome in circumstances that would have been unimaginable before the Brexit.

However, the risk is yours. No one can tell you for that sure that it will 100% work. I may not work for you for whatever reason.

If it doesn't work, your parents will never get a visitor visa. Not even in 2030.

So it's up to you to discuss as a family and see if you want to run the risk or not.

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:45 am
by wonder007
I am more confused now. Very hard to make a choice.

But anyway, thanks for your kind response.

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:29 am
by Sajid29
Hello Dear ,i have applied for my parents under Eu settlement scheme but it's been a month now since no appointments are available. Everyday i check for appointment but no availability.

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:56 pm
by wonder007
I`ve finally decided to apply and came to forum to seek some advise about the paper work and if I should via a solicitor or do the application myself but you are now telling that there are no appointments. Strange.

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:33 pm
by Sajid29
wonder007 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:56 pm
I`ve finally decided to apply and came to forum to seek some advise about the paper work and if I should via a solicitor or do the application myself but you are now telling that there are no appointments. Strange.
It's easy,do it yourself . Are you applying from Pakistan?

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:06 am
by wonder007
Yes, my parents are in PK.

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:19 am
by Sajid29
wonder007 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:06 am
Yes, my parents are in PK.
Yes you can apply online , get on demand mobile service ,they have this service available for Islamabad and Lahore . They will visit your house and take biometric . This is how my family did biometrics few days ago . Usually they don't have appointment on VFS website. We give our relative address for biometrics as we don't live in Capital .

Re: Non EU Dependent parents residence visa in UK under EU law

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:17 pm
by wonder007
Can you please share the list of documents which you have attached with the application. I am a bit confused with the application process.

>> Is this the right place form where I`ll start my application ? I`ll submit everything on behalf of my parents.

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... -selection (Pakistan)

>> next step

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.uk/next (entered my email)

>> next step

Thats where I am confused: (I am an Irish national)


Close family member of an Irish Citizen who does not have a UK immigration status under the EU Settlement Scheme, but would qualify for status under the EU Settlement Scheme were they to apply for it (I think this option applies in my case as it explicitly talks about the Irish national)

Family member of an EEA national (is this option applicable for anyone from EEA other than Irish ?)

I`ll highly appreciate your kind advise,