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Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:31 pm
by Snech
Hi everyone .
I applied recently to upgrade my pre settlement statue to settlement statue .
I thought u can apply after the Fifth anniversary of the wedding but apparently my understanding is not right.
As the application wasn't successful unfortunately i have been told to start count from the issue date of the
eea rc residencee card
I would like to know of the 5 years contineous qualifying period for the eea family member start from the wedding day or from the day of issue of the EEA RC2 residence card ??
I would really appreciate if someone could help !
Many thanks

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:32 pm
by CR001
Where did you get married??

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:33 pm
by Snech
November 2015

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:34 pm
by CR001
I asked WHERE not when!

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:17 pm
by Snech
Sorry my bad ,,😅
Married in the UK

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:52 pm
by Elderflower5
Has the law changed? Because it definitely used to be that you could get Settled Status after 5 years of marriage while in the UK.

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:04 pm
by Snech
Elderflower5 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:52 pm
Has the law changed? Because it definitely used to be that you could get Settled Status after 5 years of marriage while in the UK.
I guess yes ! I applied after 5 years of marriage and wasn't successful !
I just want to know when the qualifying period begins on the EU law .

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:10 am
by vinny
Snech wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:31 pm
i have been told to start count from the issue date of the eea rc residencee card
I think that they are wrong. It seems that they may have gotten mixed up between a spouse and a durable partner.

EU11 3.
(a) The applicant:
(i) is a relevant EEA citizen; or
(ii) is (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period was) a family member of a relevant EEA citizen; or
(iii) is (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period was) a family member who has retained the right of residence by virtue of a relationship with a relevant EEA citizen; or
(iv) is a person with a derivative right to reside; or
(v) is a person with a Zambrano right to reside; or
(vi) is a person who had a derivative or Zambrano right to reside; and
(b) The applicant has completed a continuous qualifying period of five years in any (or any combination) of those categories; and
(c) Since then no supervening event has occurred
family member of a relevant EEA citizen
a person who has satisfied the Secretary of State, including by the required evidence of family relationship, that they are (and for the relevant period have been), or (as the case may be) for the relevant period (or at the relevant time) they were:
(a) the spouse or civil partner of a relevant EEA citizen, and:
(i) the marriage was contracted or the civil partnership was formed before the specified date
; or
(ii) the applicant was the durable partner of the relevant EEA citizen before the specified date (the definition of ‘durable partner’ in this table being met before that date rather than at the date of application), and the partnership remained durable at the specified date; or
(b) the durable partner of a relevant EEA citizen, and:
(i) the partnership was formed and was durable before the specified date; and
(ii) the partnership remains durable at the date of application (or it did so for the relevant period or immediately before the death of the relevant EEA citizen); or
(c) the child or dependent parent of a relevant EEA citizen; or
(d) the child or dependent parent of the spouse or civil partner of a relevant EEA citizen, as described in sub-paragraph (a) above; or
(e) the dependent relative, before 1 January 2021, of a relevant EEA citizen (or of their spouse or civil partner, as described in sub-paragraph (a) above) and the family relationship continues to exist at the date of application
There is no requirement for a spouse to hold a relevant document, as in the case with a durable partner.

durable partner
(a) the person is, or (as the case may be) for the relevant period was, in a durable relationship with a relevant EEA citizen (or with a qualifying British citizen), with the couple having lived together in a relationship akin to a marriage or civil partnership for at least two years (unless there is other significant evidence of the durable relationship); and
(b) the person holds a relevant document (as described in sub-paragraph (a)(i) or (a)(ii) of that entry in this table) as the durable partner of the relevant EEA citizen (or of the qualifying British citizen) for the period of residence relied upon, unless the date of application is after 31 December 2020 and the person was resident outside the UK at that date; and
(c) it is, or (as the case may be) for the relevant period was, not a durable partnership of convenience; and
(d) neither party has, or (as the case may be) for the relevant period had, another durable partner, a spouse or a civil partner with (in any of those circumstances) immigration status in the UK or the Islands based on that person’s relationship with that party

in addition, to meet condition 6 in the table in paragraph EU11 of this Appendix, the above requirements are to be met with reference to the period immediately before the death of the relevant EEA citizen rather than to the date of application
Refer to the other appropriate definitions for completeness.

Appeal.

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 am
by Bazinga_
I am in a similar boat albeit understandably being granted pre-settle status. I agree with Vinny, appeal.

Due to this, as part of my supporting document, when I apply April next year for settled status I am going to add the decision letter as they told me exactly when my continuous period started (ie when we got married/date of registration). So they go by when marriage was registered at least in my case.

Just sharing personal experience. Baffled by reasoning of some of these caseworkers, as if your life depends on one person.

Best of luck with your appeal.

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:52 am
by kamoe
Bazinga_ wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 am
Baffled by reasoning of some of these caseworkers, as if your life depends on one person.
Well, for the purposes of this immigration route, it does. The relationship to that person is the reason you are here.

Of course, in reality that is probably not the only reason. You might have a stable job, or you might have your own business that contributes to the economy, or you might be enrolled in full time study. And if that's the case, you are totally free to apply for a different visa for which you qualify on your own terms without depending on another person (Tier 2 work, Tier 4 Student, Tier 1 investor), and pay the corresponding fee. Anyone is free to chose the immigration route that is more convenient for them.

It just so happens that the EEA/EUSS routes are/were usually be the most convenient in terms of fees, and so most people choose freely to agree that in order to qualify for the most convenient route your life does depend on one person. It really does.

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:46 am
by Bazinga_
kamoe wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:52 am
Bazinga_ wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 am
Baffled by reasoning of some of these caseworkers, as if your life depends on one person.
Well, for the purposes of this immigration route, it does. The relationship to that person is the reason you are here.

Of course, in reality that is probably not the only reason. You might have a stable job, or you might have your own business that contributes to the economy, or you might be enrolled in full time study. And if that's the case, you are totally free to apply for a different visa for which you qualify on your own terms without depending on another person (Tier 2 work, Tier 4 Student, Tier 1 investor), and pay the corresponding fee. Anyone is free to chose the immigration route that is more convenient for them.

It just so happens that the EEA/EUSS routes are/were usually be the most convenient in terms of fees, and so most people choose freely to agree that in order to qualify for the most convenient route your life does depend on one person. It really does.
I meant as if your life depended on the caseworkers (regarding inconsistencies) not my spouse. I am aware it does immigration wise and other ways as well.

Re: Continuous qualifying period for settlement scheme

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:48 am
by kamoe
Bazinga_ wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:46 am
I meant as if your life depended on the caseworkers (regarding inconsistencies) not my spouse.
Gotcha. Sadly that is also true :(