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Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:18 am
by kamoe
According to some reports, it seems it is important to travel with the document that is attached to one's status, or one could face issues at the UK border.

I'd like to run an experiment to clarify which card is ultimately attached to the status, to see wether it makes sense to travel with the old EEA card when the EUSS card is in progress or has been recently issued, since it is a relevant topic for discussion.

Assuming you applied to the EU Settlement Scheme using your EEA Residence Card, and that you now have exchanged that card for a new EUSS card, and you have received your new card, could you please follow the steps below and report your results?:

1. Go to the View your status site.
2. Click on "start now" at the end of the page
3. Select "Biometric residence card or permit"
4. Type the number of your old EEA card, the one you used to apply for the Settlement Scheme
5. Type your date of birth
6. Select one of the methods to receive your verification code
7. Once you receive your code, enter it on the text box and click "continue"
8. Did it work? Can you see your status displayed?
9. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "leave service"
10. Repeat steps above, this time with your new EUSS card number

Key question is:
Which one of them, the EEA or the EUSS card number, works? Both?

Additional question in the odd chance you did this immediately after receiving your new EUSS card:
Did your EEA still work immediately after you received your EUSS card?

It will be interesting to see if the answer changes from person to person.

Thanks to everyone willing to take part.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:15 am
by Ballackmo
kamoe wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 8:18 am
According to some reports, it seems it is important to travel with the document that is attached to one's status, or one could face issues at the UK border.

I'd like to run an experiment to clarify which card is ultimately attached to the status, to see wether it makes sense to travel with the old EEA card when the EUSS card is in progress or has been recently issued, since it is a relevant topic for discussion.

Assuming you applied to the EU Settlement Scheme using your EEA Residence Card, and that you now have exchanged that card for a new EUSS card, and you have received your new card, could you please follow the steps below and report your results?:

1. Go to the View your status site.
2. Click on "start now" at the end of the page
3. Select "Biometric residence card or permit"
4. Type the number of your old EEA card, the one you used to apply for the Settlement Scheme
5. Type your date of birth
6. Select one of the methods to receive your verification code
7. Once you receive your code, enter it on the text box and click "continue"
8. Did it work? Can you see your status displayed?
9. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "leave service"
10. Repeat steps above, this time with your new EUSS card number

Key question is:
Which one of them, the EEA or the EUSS card number, works? Both?

Additional question in the odd chance you did this immediately after receiving your new EUSS card:
Did your EEA still work immediately after you received your EUSS card?

It will be interesting to see if the answer changes from person to person.

Thanks to everyone willing to take part.
New card won’t work with your status... update the new card to your status

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:52 am
by kamoe
Ballackmo wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 11:15 am
New card won’t work with your status...
That is precisely what I'm trying to prove or rebuke, and more precisely if at all there is a "cooling off" period where the status is still attached to the old card. Can you tell me if you tried the exercise above?
update the new card to your status
Do you mean apply to convert the card? Of course, that's what we are all doing.
Wether we should apply to convert the card or not is not the point of this post. We all need to do it, there is no way around it.

The point of this whole exercise is to find out (if and) when the old EEA RC stops working.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
by vetchololass87
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.

Thanks

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
by Ballackmo
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.

Thanks
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:18 pm
by Ballackmo
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.

Thanks
My old BRC doesn’t work anymore where as my new Settlement card works perfectly after the update

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:53 pm
by kamoe
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly
Thank you so much for this!
After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.
This is precisely the kind of information I was looking for. The switch is not automatic, then. The new card is not activated until you actually request it!

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:59 pm
by kamoe
Ballackmo wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request
Thanks. I know this happened a while ago, but did you tried to check if your old card was still active before you requested to activate the new one, by any chance?

All in all, what I want to know is when exactly the old card gets invalidated:

a) When the new one is issued
b) When they act upon your request to activate the new card

If answer is b); in the event of being issued a card while you are abroad, you could in theory come back into the UK using your old EEA card, provided you have not asked the new one to be activated.

It would be really good if people are in control of when the switch takes place (of when your EEA RC becomes invalid).

I'll try checking on the website myself when I'm issued a new card, to verify this.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:32 pm
by Ballackmo
kamoe wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 4:59 pm
Ballackmo wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request
Thanks. I know this happened a while ago, but did you tried to check if your old card was still active before you requested to activate the new one, by any chance?

All in all, what I want to know is when exactly the old card gets invalidated:

a) When the new one is issued
b) When they act upon your request to activate the new card

If answer is b); in the event of being issued a card while you are abroad, you could in theory come back into the UK using your old EEA card, provided you have not asked the new one to be activated.

It would be really good if people are in control of when the switch takes place (of when your EEA RC becomes invalid).

I'll try checking on the website myself when I'm issued a new card, to verify this.
My old card was active before I requested to be activated after the activation the Old card stopped working

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:28 pm
by Ballackmo
kamoe wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 4:59 pm
Ballackmo wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request
Thanks. I know this happened a while ago, but did you tried to check if your old card was still active before you requested to activate the new one, by any chance?

All in all, what I want to know is when exactly the old card gets invalidated:

a) When the new one is issued
b) When they act upon your request to activate the new card

If answer is b); in the event of being issued a card while you are abroad, you could in theory come back into the UK using your old EEA card, provided you have not asked the new one to be activated.

It would be really good if people are in control of when the switch takes place (of when your EEA RC becomes invalid).

I'll try checking on the website myself when I'm issued a new card, to verify this.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 11:49 am
by MYRA4U
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request
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Please how did you request for an update online?

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:57 pm
by MYRA4U
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online..


Hi vetchololass87,

Please how did you managed to update your EUSS card Online? Can you provide me the link please, as i would like to update my EU SS card as well.

Thanks

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:32 pm
by qazqwer333
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.

Thanks
Hi
Can you share the link to update a EUSS CARD.
many thks

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 8:28 pm
by Ballackmo
qazqwer333 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 6:32 pm
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.

Thanks
Hi
Can you share the link to update a EUSS CARD.
many thks
https://www.gov.uk/update-uk-visas-immi ... nt-details

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 8:43 pm
by qazqwer333
Hi Friends
my mom is an NON EU national.
she received BRC under EUSS yesterday. we try to see her Pre settle Status online, but it not go through.
With non eu passport number we receive code on phone. But still not go through. message appears:

There's a problem with this service at the moment
Try again later.

If we try with BRC CARD UNIQUE NUMBER then shows

The details entered don't match our records

What should i do with this
is there any problem if she travel out from country and come back to UK.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 10:36 pm
by Ballackmo
qazqwer333 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 8:43 pm
Hi Friends
my mom is an NON EU national.
she received BRC under EUSS yesterday. we try to see her Pre settle Status online, but it not go through.
With non eu passport number we receive code on phone. But still not go through. message appears:

There's a problem with this service at the moment
Try again later.

If we try with BRC CARD UNIQUE NUMBER then shows

The details entered don't match our records

What should i do with this
is there any problem if she travel out from country and come back to UK.
It’s not a problem for her to travel

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:55 pm
by vetchololass87
MYRA4U wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:57 pm
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online..


Hi vetchololass87,

Please how did you managed to update your EUSS card Online? Can you provide me the link please, as i would like to update my EU SS card as well.

Thanks

Hello

The link is:

https://www.gov.uk/update-uk-visas-immi ... nt-details

Thanks

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:55 pm
by vetchololass87
qazqwer333 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 6:32 pm
vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
Hi Kamoe

I have tried the exercise and the outcome is:

- the EEA card number is not recognized, doesn't work at all
- the EUSS card number works perfectly

After receiving my new EUSS card, i did update my card number online and the Home office emailed me the next day to inform me that my new card number is ready to be used and check my status online.

Therefore in my case i could say that the cooling off period was over as soon as they updated the new card...it is case by case i think.

Thanks
Hi
Can you share the link to update a EUSS CARD.
many thks

Hello

The link is:

https://www.gov.uk/update-uk-visas-immi ... nt-details

Thanks

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm
by iwolga
kamoe wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 4:59 pm
Ballackmo wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request
Thanks. I know this happened a while ago, but did you tried to check if your old card was still active before you requested to activate the new one, by any chance?

All in all, what I want to know is when exactly the old card gets invalidated:

a) When the new one is issued
b) When they act upon your request to activate the new card

If answer is b); in the event of being issued a card while you are abroad, you could in theory come back into the UK using your old EEA card, provided you have not asked the new one to be activated.

It would be really good if people are in control of when the switch takes place (of when your EEA RC becomes invalid).

I'll try checking on the website myself when I'm issued a new card, to verify this.
Letter that comes along with EUSS card says that my previous card has been cancelled and I need to send it back to HO ASAP. However, my online status was linked to old card up until I applied for change and they processed my application.

Presumably though your online status is linked to old card, this old card is simply not valid and can create problems at the border.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:26 pm
by Ballackmo
iwolga wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm
kamoe wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 4:59 pm
Ballackmo wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
I received Email from Home Office today that my card has been updated....it works fine after the update.took 3 weeks after request
Thanks. I know this happened a while ago, but did you tried to check if your old card was still active before you requested to activate the new one, by any chance?

All in all, what I want to know is when exactly the old card gets invalidated:

a) When the new one is issued
b) When they act upon your request to activate the new card

If answer is b); in the event of being issued a card while you are abroad, you could in theory come back into the UK using your old EEA card, provided you have not asked the new one to be activated.

It would be really good if people are in control of when the switch takes place (of when your EEA RC becomes invalid).

I'll try checking on the website myself when I'm issued a new card, to verify this.
Letter that comes along with EUSS card says that my previous card has been cancelled and I need to send it back to HO ASAP. However, my online status was linked to old card up until I applied for change and they processed my application.

Presumably though your online status is linked to old card, this old card is simply not valid and can create problems at the border.
Yes my old card was still active ... but became inactive after their Email that new card is updated

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:33 pm
by kamoe
Ballackmo wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:26 pm
Yes my old card was still active ... but became inactive after their Email that new card is updated
So it became inactive only after you requested the new one to be active, correct?

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:44 pm
by shamas4228
hello Kamoe, u said in another post you are going to contact HO regarding ur SS BRC. did u contact them? any news?
thanks

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:56 pm
by Ballackmo
kamoe wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:33 pm
Ballackmo wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:26 pm
Yes my old card was still active ... but became inactive after their Email that new card is updated
So it became inactive only after you requested the new one to be active, correct?
Yep 👍

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:27 am
by SBASCO4
Hello Everyone, i m just sharing my experience here, might help someone

I had pre SS I updated my BRC with BRC pre SS and sent my old BRC back to HM in December 2020.
Now i hv Settle Status but same pre SS BRC.

I was checking yesterday my online status as Kamoe mentioned (topic) in this post.

I used my old BRC card to check, i used my New pre SS BRC to check. I used my passport number to check and my status showing up with all of them.

Even i did get an email my Old BRC is cancelled because new one issued i sent that BRC back to HM but still working and it’s even working with my passport number. Which is nice and i hope 🤞🏾It’s stay like this.

Re: Calling all non-EU with recently exchanged EEA into EUSS cards

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:30 am
by kamoe
SBASCO4 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:27 am

I used my old BRC card to check, i used my New pre SS BRC to check. I used my passport number to check and my status showing up with all of them.

Even i did get an email my Old BRC is cancelled because new one issued i sent that BRC back to HM but still working and it’s even working with my passport number. Which is nice and i hope 🤞🏾It’s stay like this.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It is indeed wonderful news, this means one can use an old EEA card if in need, and might work. :idea: