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HELLO,

I lost the eea3 card and would anyone know please how to retain a copy??

Thank you very much.

Look, there is really no point in opening several threads for the same question though it is still not clear whether you are actually talking about 'EEA2' or 'EEA3' (your previous posts are inconsistent), that is a residence card for family members or a permanent one for EEA nationals. Have you contacted HO as advised earlier?

i really now know its eea3. would anyone know how to receive a copy? would i need to make a new application?

It's not 'EEA3', which is just the name of the application form, but rather a confirmation of permanent residence for EEA nationals. Apart from the fact that this card is just a confirmation of your rights and I cannot imagine why not having it would make any difference, I do not understand why it is such a problem for you to just reapply.

hello,

if i reapply what dates would i have to put? its complicated. i claimed benefits for the whole year now so if they want proof of income or working for the last year i am not sure that a person with eea3 can claim them but it went through so i got them i wasnt thinking too much about eea3, i have been in the country since 1997.

this is exosting, thank you.

PR is obtained automatically now since the introduction of Directive 2004/38/EC in 2006. You probably could have obtained permanent residence (or was it ILR?) before that date but I do not know what mechanism were in place then, e.g. whether you would have needed a permission from HO that granted you this right. PR means that you have nearly the same rights as a British citizen (short of voting and maybe some other rights that only citizens have). These include the right to claim those benefits. You do not need confirmation from the HO as the mere fact is sufficient.

For (re)confirmation, I would think, you can simply choose any five years which comply with the EEA regulations and are convenient for yourself but have a look into the transitional provisions. The best would probably be to just use the same documents as you have been using in your previous application and explain your situation in a cover letter. BTW, how much time has passed since the PR was issued?

well, can you tell me maybe i can just claim my information that they have about my residence permit with the data protection act? http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/conta ... formation/

i dont remember the papers i sent but i think i have information from 2004 july so i could say i came here that time to now, BUT for the last year 05/2009 - 07/2010 i claimed benefits so is that exercising the treaty rights? they might ask me how did the benefit go through i dont remeber showing them the residence, i lost it 2009 april. so its been lost for 1 year and 4-5 months now.

what if the other application i put i came here 01/2004 and this one i will put 07/2004, and write to them that i already had permanent residence and if they check and compare it might not be the same and thats braking the law isnt it.

thank you very much. maybe you can help, advise further. regards.

p.s. what is ILR?

also i have been trying to call this number to eea home office department 08450105200 and no one actually picks the phone up to talk to me just lists some webs site address, i have liverpool fax number also i faxed two faxes no one replies to me. its awful, i cant get any help with this except here or write them a letter request the information under the data protection act.

regards.

if you read below for eea section it says i can call the number for



confirmation of permanent residence in the UK;




however they dont pick up if i press 1 the other option is 2 only for british citizens.

ILR = indefinite leave to remain.

If you are a permanent resident you do not have to show proof anymore that you are exercising treaty rights. That's the whole point of the concept. You obviously are a permanent resident and HO already acknowledged this fact. You can try to just send a letter to the Liverpool team with your ID or passport only and request another copy of the document. If they don't like it they will just send everything back to you anyway. The reason why I suggested to send in all documents once again is that they have a dedicated team which scans applications for completeness prior to further processing. I do not know if they read cover letters closely. Don't worry so much and just try. You are not required to have this document anyway.

I do not think a FOIA request is for the purpose of requesting personal data.

well i dont remember which card i had but i checked the specimen and it was blue folder into 3 and from what i found through a friend thats the eea3 card, i remember i went to do a residency test also to apply for british passport but i was thinking i have to wait a few more years to apply for that one, ive mistaken i guess.

i dont have any ideas just my passport, i dont think they read cover letters unless i print it out and make it clear, i have no ideas how to access them. would it just be ordinary liverpool address on any form. i mean i also did get apolice report for the lost card.

gosh i dont know what to do i think i have to reapply really. awful, how could i have lost it.
thank you.

@ devine: what is your nationality?

lithuania

devine wrote:lithuania

There is no need to worry or even bother to apply. Just stay as you are and continue claiming benefits as the pr is not going to affect your residency status anyway.
I really don't know why do you worry that much!

well i have a worry problem thats one hehe


what is a pr??


well the benefit agency is asking me for a home office document of my leave to remain, i said i lost it they said they will up the case and send it to someone higher guys for them to decide so this is why

i really hope you are right

oh, pr - permanent residence.

devine wrote:well i have a worry problem thats one hehe


what is a pr??


well the benefit agency is asking me for a home office document of my leave to remain, i said i lost it they said they will up the case and send it to someone higher guys for them to decide so this is why

i really hope you are right

Well, my knowledge stops at that point and maybe one of the gurus can help, but i think they shouldn't do that to you as you are an eea/a8

Thanks, i am sending the letter today asking for SAR from the home office undert the freedom or data protection act, they should reply withing 40 days.


this might be to do with the fact that my passport has been issued 2006 and ive sent them a copy and that doesnt count to 5 years yet if ive been in the country since 2004.

i hope this all works out, thank you.

well reading from this http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/news/d ... ocs_uk.pdf

the job centre does need a home office letter.

hopefully ill get that with the data protection act and £10 that i have to pay them.

oh but then i read this that the job centre doesnt really need it



When an EEA national claims benefits in the UK certain documents must be produced
to establish the identity of the applicant. These documents must be originals.
Photocopies will not be accepted. The documents that the DWP will accept are:
a. Valid passport
b. Identification card
c. Birth certificate or deed poll
Legalisation Study Project Questionnaire: Page 4 18/07/2007 Confidential
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d. Home Office document.
In relation to point d. above, upon entering the UK an individual may have been issued
with immigration documents by the Home Office. These documents will be accepted
by the DWP as proof of identity.
If none of the above documentation is available the DWP will accept any two of the
following:
a. Letter from employer
b. Contract of employment
c. Work permit
d. Payslips
e. Invoices
f. Student identification card
g. Letter from college
h. Student loan documents
i. Mortgage or rental agreement
j. Full driving licence
k. Utility bills
l. Letter from accountant
m. Services contract
The DWP and Pensions Service is trying to reduce its reliance on documentation to
be produced by the individual and therefore details will be stored in the DWP’s
database after an initial claim is made. On making subsequent claims an individual
can be identified over the telephone and eventually over the internet by answering
three security questions (such as date of birth, current address etc.).
If an EEA national is to apply for benefits in the UK they will also have to apply for a
National Insurance number either before or at the same time as applying for benefits.
National Insurance numbers are obtained from the local Jobcentre office (part of the
DWP). The checks carried out upon application for a National Insurance are stricter
than those carried out for applications for benefits. Applicants are required to attend
an interview in which their documentation is examined. Checks on passports and
visas are carried out using ultra-violet light to check that they are genuine.
In some cases claims are transferred to the DWP from foreign administrative
authorities. In such cases liaison forms are used to verify life events and the facts
given in these forms are accepted by the DWP. However, in the event of conflict of
information between the authorities the UK authorities reserve the right to request to
see original documentation.
Acceptance of original documents depends, in all cases, on the officer to whom the
claim is presented. Translations of the documents are not normally required since
evidence of identity is largely dependent on the photograph on the identity document
and the name, which are both easily identifiable. If a translation is required the
individual will never be asked to obtain a translation of the document: authorities have
their own network of translators and therefore no certification or legalisation of
translations is required



FROM THE SAME WEBSITE.

this is in that link as well:



The precise documents to be submitted in support of an application will depend on the
applicant’s individual circumstances. However, in relation to supporting documents,
forms EEA1 and EEA3 specify as follows:
“All documents should be originals. If you can’t provide an original
document when applying, please explain why and say
when you will be able to provide it. If you provide a
certified copy, it should be a copy certified by the body or
authority which issued the original document, or by a
notary. To resolve your application, we need to see the
originals of passport(s) or ID card(s) as appropriate, and
if needed to prove a family member relationship, marriage
and birth certificates.â€

hello,

i got the information from the home office and it was eea1 form that i filled in and it says that they tried to contact me in 2009 the card was issued in 2007 and because i have not replied they withdrew my application. so do i have to reapply now for eea1 i have been in the country since 1997 as an asylum with parents all the data is there, so i am wondering if its still eea1 form for me? because in the specimen its blue folded card that i had the specimen example said its a permanent residence card.

im confused. thanks for any replies.