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THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:01 pm
by kafi
CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ABOUT THE STUDYING IN UK UNIVERSITY AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF EU NATIONAL WHO IS WORKING HERE FOR TWO YEARS ,

---- CAN EEA2 GET THE HOME STATUS FOR TUITION FEES

OR

----- CAN EEA2 GET THE GOVT. GRANT & FINANCE FOR THE DEGREE COURSE..


PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS....

MANY MANY THANKS......

Re: THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:24 pm
by Plum70
kafi wrote:CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ABOUT THE STUDYING IN UK UNIVERSITY AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF EU NATIONAL WHO IS WORKING HERE FOR TWO YEARS ,

---- CAN EEA2 GET THE HOME STATUS FOR TUITION FEES
Full fees most probably apply as you are not considered a permanent resident yet. However some colleges may apply discretion. See the UKCISA website for more details: http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/
----- CAN EEA2 GET THE GOVT. GRANT & FINANCE FOR THE DEGREE COURSE...
Same as above.

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:45 pm
by Monifé
I was under the impression that an EU family member was to get treated the same as the EU citizen, so shouldnt they get the same fees treatment as an EU citizen?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:31 pm
by Guerro
Personally speaking, i got rc and lived in the uk for one year and paid home fees in a college. I don't know about universities or grants. In theory, you should be treated as a european citizen in all aspects. In practice, keep fingers crossed

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:39 pm
by Mary1
Hi

I recently applied for a course at Leeds Uni and in one of the questionnaires they specifically asked me to demonstrate I had permanent residency to qualify as a home student.

M

THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:05 pm
by radi8
@kafi-Yes, you can. My wife is an EEA2 and she is studying at London Metropolitan University. She paid home tuition fees as EEA family member. She provided her ID with RC sticker, my ID and our certificate of married.

Hope this help

Re: THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:44 pm
by bobbysatya4u
kafi wrote:CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ABOUT THE STUDYING IN UK UNIVERSITY AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF EU NATIONAL WHO IS WORKING HERE FOR TWO YEARS ,

---- CAN EEA2 GET THE HOME STATUS FOR TUITION FEES

OR

----- CAN EEA2 GET THE GOVT. GRANT & FINANCE FOR THE DEGREE COURSE..


PLEASE LET ME EXPLAIN THIS....

MANY MANY THANKS......
Hi,U should be treated as EU national so u'll have to pay EU fees altho there are some courses such as in health care where u pay home fees or even can apply for grants/student loans.Best to ask uni's admission office.all d best

Re: THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:35 am
by kafi
radi8 wrote:@kafi-Yes, you can. My wife is an EEA2 and she is studying at London Metropolitan University. She paid home tuition fees as EEA family member. She provided her ID with RC sticker, my ID and our certificate of married.

Hope this help
thanks a lot for your kind information

Re: THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:37 am
by kafi
.thank you very much..... bobbysatya4u

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:52 am
by missy4real
As long as u r a family member of an EU citizen, u are classed as a home student provided dat u can prove it, your RC is evident enough, but also take a copy of u spouse's id just in case. When I applied for uni all I took was a foto copy of my passport, COA, copy of marriage certificate n utility bill with both our names and i got through, although they tried to make a fuss about it but if ur know ur right den u r good to go. I also get a bursary cos of the course that I am studying. When I finally got my rc, I sent them a copy just to update my record. So in summary u r classed as a home student and can apply for grant. Hope dis helps

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:24 am
by 86ti
As suggested above it might be useful to actually read provided links or more specificially this UKCISA page. If the criteria mentioned therein are fulfilled the school must, in principle at least, accept the student under home fees. Of course, schools can apply relaxed rules if they want (and can). The gist is that non-EEA family members must be treated at the same footing as UK students.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:35 am
by alejandrouk
I contacted UKCISA and about 6 universities sent me their questionnaire to determine my fee status (I am unmarried to my EEA partner) only one University accepted me as home student the rest and UKCISA didn't. Still I am trying to deal with this before my course starts, however their point was that if I will be married then I would be classed as home student but as we are unmarried I do not qualify. If you are married to your EEA family member and cover the other relevant criteria then it seems it should be a problem.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_s ... i.php#cat3

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:29 am
by kafi
alejandrouk wrote:I contacted UKCISA and about 6 universities sent me their questionnaire to determine my fee status (I am unmarried to my EEA partner) only one University accepted me as home student the rest and UKCISA didn't. Still I am trying to deal with this before my course starts, however their point was that if I will be married then I would be classed as home student but as we are unmarried I do not qualify. If you are married to your EEA family member and cover the other relevant criteria then it seems it should be a problem.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_s ... i.php#cat3
i applied for students finance & Maintenance Grant . now they want to see my passport with rc and my wife's proof of income (p60 or tax return document)

i have talk to one person, he says' i am eligible for students finance & Maintenance Grant' if i can proof i got RC and my wife is working in uk

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:28 am
by alejandrouk
I re-read my previous post and noticed the typo it should read, "it shouldn't be a problem" instead of "it should be a problem".

Yes, as you are married it should be just a matter of showing the evidence, (exercising rights, three years in the UK, etc). Good luck, please do come back and post the final decision of the University, as to conclude with this thread.

Re: THE RIGHTS OF EEA2 TO STUDY IN UK UNIVERSITY

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:55 pm
by pinkpanter
kafi wrote:CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ABOUT THE STUDYING IN UK UNIVERSITY AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF EU NATIONAL WHO IS WORKING HERE FOR TWO YEARS ,

---- CAN EEA2 GET THE HOME STATUS FOR TUITION FEES

OR

----- CAN EEA2 GET THE GOVT. GRANT & FINANCE FOR THE DEGREE COURSE..


PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS....

MANY MANY THANKS......
Please see bleow. As a family memeber of EEA national, you should be consider as a home student. I have a RC status and have paid home fee.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_s ... e_overseas

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:08 pm
by Deeone
I have seen some which is a depandant of an EEA national that is not given the student finance till date. She was first asked to submit evidence of a relationship between him and the EEA and then asked to submit the ID card. and After then she was now Asked to submit the EEA national Passport after submitting every documents, this has been going for almost a year now and The university tends to Suspend her because the issue of her tuition fee was not cleared. i tend to believe this is a discrimination against but ask her to seek a legal advise against the agency. But I guess she did not know the steps to take. cos she mentioned the last time i met her she has not resolved the issue. They are tricky sometimes

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:28 am
by mcovet
EQUALITY!!!
See Directive 2004/38 and push on against ignorant institutions


Article 24
Equal treatment
1. Subject to such specific provisions as are expressly provided for in the Treaty and secondary
law, all Union citizens residing on the basis of this Directive in the territory of the host Member
State shall enjoy equal treatment with the nationals of that Member State within the scope of the
Treaty. The benefit of this right shall be extended to family members who are not nationals of a
Member State and who have the right of residence
or permanent residence.

2. By way of derogation from paragraph 1, the host Member State shall not be obliged to confer
entitlement to social assistance during the first three months of residence or, where appropriate, the
longer period provided for in Article 14(4)(b), nor shall it be obliged, prior to acquisition of the
right of permanent residence, to grant maintenance aid for studies, including vocational training,
consisting in student grants or student loans to persons other than workers, self-employed persons,
persons who retain such status and members of their families.

Thus, if you are a family member of an EEA student that's where you may find trouble getting assistance (I'm not talking about home fees which MUST apply to all cases) in the form of grants etc. Otherwise, as long as your EEA is a worker or self-employed, you are to pay home fees.

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:16 pm
by kafi
I checked my student finance application status,
it shows that "I am entitle for 4999.50 maintainance loan & 3290 for tuition fees .."

they didnt say anything for grant that i applied for.

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:12 pm
by Ajenta83
My experience.

I'm an EU national and when my husband joined me and received his RC for 5 years he applied for a uni course.

They said, eventhough he is a family memeber of an eu national, there was a second criteria he didn't met which was residencing in the UK for atleast 3 years to qualify for Home student fees.

So they said he had to pay 9 k/year as an internaitonal student!!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:19 am
by kafi
Ajenta83 wrote:My experience.

I'm an EU national and when my husband joined me and received his RC for 5 years he applied for a uni course.

They said, eventhough he is a family memeber of an eu national, there was a second criteria he didn't met which was residencing in the UK for atleast 3 years to qualify for Home student fees.

So they said he had to pay 9 k/year as an internaitonal student!!!!
as long as he the family member of Eu national who is working here he is able to get home fees. he should try in some different university.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:27 pm
by maviesk
The 3 year residence requirement is for EVERYONE when it comes to home fees, even British students.. You have to have been resident in the UK or another EU state in the 3 years before you start your course. The only exception I know of is for Turkish children of parents working in the UK under the Ankara agreement, they must have been resident in any EU country or Turkey.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:44 am
by kafi
maviesk wrote:The 3 year residence requirement is for EVERYONE when it comes to home fees, even British students.. You have to have been resident in the UK or another EU state in the 3 years before you start your course. The only exception I know of is for Turkish children of parents working in the UK under the Ankara agreement, they must have been resident in any EU country or Turkey.
thx for reply. i asked the student finance to review my application . they did wrong decission before now they approved my student loan, tution fees loan and grands. its becoj of the case worker ignorance

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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:57 am
by smithgold
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:47 pm
by hazel
maviesk wrote:The 3 year residence requirement is for EVERYONE when it comes to home fees, even British students.. You have to have been resident in the UK or another EU state in the 3 years before you start your course. The only exception I know of is for Turkish children of parents working in the UK under the Ankara agreement, they must have been resident in any EU country or Turkey.
i came to UK on 12 july 2009 on student visa and i completed my college diploma in july 2011, meanwhile i got engaged with European girl and then we got married this year in may and i have received my residency card (eea2) on 3October 2011. Now i want to study a university course starting in September 2012.
Now my questions are these:
Can i apply for home fees and student finance (means any grants)?
And what is meant by 3years residency requirements?? Am i eligible for 3years residency because i came to this country on 12 July 2009 and on 12 july 2012 i will complete my 3years in uk.
please help me. I am very worried.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:28 pm
by Greenie
hazel wrote:
maviesk wrote:The 3 year residence requirement is for EVERYONE when it comes to home fees, even British students.. You have to have been resident in the UK or another EU state in the 3 years before you start your course. The only exception I know of is for Turkish children of parents working in the UK under the Ankara agreement, they must have been resident in any EU country or Turkey.
i came to UK on 12 july 2009 on student visa and i completed my college diploma in july 2011, meanwhile i got engaged with European girl and then we got married this year in may and i have received my residency card (eea2) on 3October 2011. Now i want to study a university course starting in September 2012.
Now my questions are these:
Can i apply for home fees and student finance (means any grants)?
And what is meant by 3years residency requirements?? Am i eligible for 3years residency because i came to this country on 12 July 2009 and on 12 july 2012 i will complete my 3years in uk.
please help me. I am very worried.
how is your wife exercising her treaty rights in the UK?