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DO I NEED TO APPEAL
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:07 am
by eunice
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i have been rejected EEA2 application on the basis of providing invalid EU passport with right to appeal within 10 working days. Does anyone know will they really try to remove myself from the uk if i do not appeal? i intend to lodge in the appeal and provide a new ID and other information.
I will prefer the appeal to be a paper one,since all d documentation will be provided.Opinions will be very welcome if u have an idea
Re: DO I NEED TO APPEAL
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:26 am
by smallpie
eunice wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
i have been rejected EEA2 application on the basis of providing invalid EU passport with right to appeal within 10 working days. Does anyone know will they really try to remove myself from the uk if i do not appeal? i intend to lodge in the appeal and provide a new ID and other information.
I will prefer the appeal to be a paper one,since all d documentation will be provided.Opinions will be very welcome if u have an idea
yeah, u will need to appeal it asap b4 the ten days expire and if u know for sure u got d required documents as, valid id card or passport and docs to support it.. then send it to them rite away. if u dnt, they will try as much as they say to remove u , particularly if yr visa has expired. are u an eu-national or yr partner?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:58 am
by 86ti
smallpie wrote:if u dnt, they will try as much as they say to remove u , particularly if yr visa has expired.
From where do you get the information that a family member will be removed from the UK under the circumstances described? Sorry but your message sounds very much like alarmist and you really do need to back this up with some hard data. As long as the OP have the necessary documents proving their status the UKBA will find it hard to enforce deportation.
To the OP: in what way was the passport 'invalid'?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:06 pm
by eunice
Thanks for ur response,the passport was invalid bcos it was reported sometime ago as lost/stolen,its my partner that is the eu national,the appeal has been lodge but its a paper appeal,i will really appreciate ur contributions on the paper appeal process
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:39 am
by smallpie
ok.. now u explained better abt yr partner's eu-passport..as long as u got a valid passprt to support the claim that its valid , despite its once claimed stolen or lost. maybe your partner will need to write a supporting letter to back it up too. i only said they mite try to remove someone in such cases, coz it happened to one of my mate, wen his own passport got expired inside the HO -office while he made the application, they end up refusing him and sayin with a letter that he needs to present a valid passport or leave the country within 28 days as his visa expires too. later notice the letters are all templates. he renewed his passport and proceeded with his application and still waiting for result too.
Success story
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:35 pm
by eunice
Thanks all for all ur support,i received my tribunal decision and it says my appeal has been allowed,it was a paper appeal and it was faster...all done within 2 mths of the appeal.what is the next step?
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:43 pm
by racim
eunice wrote:Thanks for ur response,the passport was invalid bcos it was reported sometime ago as lost/stolen,its my partner that is the eu national,the appeal has been lodge but its a paper appeal,i will really appreciate ur contributions on the paper appeal process
Was it reported lost or stolen in the uk or in her home country thx
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:00 pm
by eunice
It was reported in france
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:06 pm
by racim
eunice wrote:It was reported in france
so it means if the passport is been reported as lost or stolen in any of EU countries home office would know that !!
What is SIS and SIRENE?
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:10 pm
by eldane
racim wrote:eunice wrote:It was reported in france
so it means if the passport is been reported as lost or stolen in any of EU countries home office would know that !!
What is SIS - Schengen Information System
In Europe, the SIS is the largest shared database on maintaining public security, support police and judicial co-operation and managing external border control. Participating States provide entries, called "alerts", on wanted and missing persons,
lost and stolen property and entry bans. It is immediately and directly accessible to all police officers at street level and other law enforcement officials and authorities who need the information to carry out their roles in protecting law and order and fighting crime.
It covers most of the European Union, together with Norway, Iceland and Switzerland.
What is SIRENE?
"SIRENE" stands for "Supplementary Information Request at the National Entry".
SIRENE Bureaux are a single point of contact for all national law enforcement authorities involved in SIS and also police co-operation in Schengen area.Their principal tasks are processing the "alerts" in the Schengen Information System and enforcing them. They are also a pivotal point in cross-border police cooperation.
SIRENE communications are subject to very stringent data protection provisions. Consequently, SIRENE officers also have to undergo a strict recruitment procedure. SIRENE Bureaux are on duty round the clock.
Co-operation via SIRENE Bureaux has proved to be very effective and reliable, which is very important in an area without internal border controls. The available statistics on hits are also evidence of this effectiveness. The 62% increase in hits in 2008 was noted by the Council, which confirmed the SIS and SIRENE co-operation as a pivotal tool of co-operation for a safe Europe and called on the Member States to adequately support SIRENE Bureaux and the use of SIS.
Most important tasks:
handling data on persons and objects as stipulated in Articles 95 to 100 of the Schengen Implementing Convention, by processing new alerts,
exchanging supplementary information, for instance in case of double alerts and misused identity, coordinating actions to be taken, transmitting supplementary information and processing hits, searches based on European Arrest Warrants, including their execution after decisions of the competent judicial authorities providing international police co-operation and mutual judicial assistance as outlined in Articles 39 and 46 of the Schengen Convention, assisting judicial authorities in connection with extradition/surrender cases, the repatriation of suspects by air from Schengen countries and international legal assistance,
providing information “ following lawful subject access enquiries“ about entries stored in the SIS and in the national police database in compliance with data protection provisions, drawing up guidance on how to lawfully use the SIS for subordinate authorities and services, organising training courses and participating in high impact operations, participating in the further development of the SIS and co-operation in the Schengen area, including mutual assistance and support, especially for the new participating States.
In view of the different structures and jurisdictions of law enforcement and justice authorities in the individual Schengen Member States, a/m tasks might be carried out differently.
Re: What is SIS and SIRENE?
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:26 am
by racim
eldane wrote:racim wrote:eunice wrote:It was reported in france
so it means if the passport is been reported as lost or stolen in any of EU countries home office would know that !!
What is SIS - Schengen Information System
In Europe, the SIS is the largest shared database on maintaining public security, support police and judicial co-operation and managing external border control. Participating States provide entries, called "alerts", on wanted and missing persons,
lost and stolen property and entry bans. It is immediately and directly accessible to all police officers at street level and other law enforcement officials and authorities who need the information to carry out their roles in protecting law and order and fighting crime.
It covers most of the European Union, together with Norway, Iceland and Switzerland.
What is SIRENE?
"SIRENE" stands for "Supplementary Information Request at the National Entry".
SIRENE Bureaux are a single point of contact for all national law enforcement authorities involved in SIS and also police co-operation in Schengen area.Their principal tasks are processing the "alerts" in the Schengen Information System and enforcing them. They are also a pivotal point in cross-border police cooperation.
SIRENE communications are subject to very stringent data protection provisions. Consequently, SIRENE officers also have to undergo a strict recruitment procedure. SIRENE Bureaux are on duty round the clock.
Co-operation via SIRENE Bureaux has proved to be very effective and reliable, which is very important in an area without internal border controls. The available statistics on hits are also evidence of this effectiveness. The 62% increase in hits in 2008 was noted by the Council, which confirmed the SIS and SIRENE co-operation as a pivotal tool of co-operation for a safe Europe and called on the Member States to adequately support SIRENE Bureaux and the use of SIS.
Most important tasks:
handling data on persons and objects as stipulated in Articles 95 to 100 of the Schengen Implementing Convention, by processing new alerts,
exchanging supplementary information, for instance in case of double alerts and misused identity, coordinating actions to be taken, transmitting supplementary information and processing hits, searches based on European Arrest Warrants, including their execution after decisions of the competent judicial authorities providing international police co-operation and mutual judicial assistance as outlined in Articles 39 and 46 of the Schengen Convention, assisting judicial authorities in connection with extradition/surrender cases, the repatriation of suspects by air from Schengen countries and international legal assistance,
providing information “ following lawful subject access enquiries“ about entries stored in the SIS and in the national police database in compliance with data protection provisions, drawing up guidance on how to lawfully use the SIS for subordinate authorities and services, organising training courses and participating in high impact operations, participating in the further development of the SIS and co-operation in the Schengen area, including mutual assistance and support, especially for the new participating States.
In view of the different structures and jurisdictions of law enforcement and justice authorities in the individual Schengen Member States, a/m tasks might be carried out differently.
thx for the usefull information mate